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To: OLD REGGIE; presently no screen name
I just made a post on that.

We know that Mary of Cleophas was the mother of James and Joses from John 19:25: "there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen". That proves that at least James and Joseph were not children of Mary the Mother of God, but raqther of that other Mary.

The other gospels indeed do not mention Mary the Mother of God at the cross. But note that St. John was there, and he mentions all three Marys.

Mary the Mother of God was not among the women bringing myrrh on the next day.

3,256 posted on 11/26/2010 11:28:11 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; presently no screen name
I just made a post on that.

We know that Mary of Cleophas was the mother of James and Joses from John 19:25: "there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen". That proves that at least James and Joseph were not children of Mary the Mother of God, but raqther of that other Mary.

How in the world do you make the leap to "Mary of Cleophas" being the mother of James, Joses, etc.?

The other gospels indeed do not mention Mary the Mother of God at the cross. But note that St. John was there, and he mentions all three Marys.

On the contrary, the other Gospels do name Mary, the mother of Jesus, James, and Joseph.

Mary the Mother of God was not among the women bringing myrrh on the next day.

You would have her washing her hands of Jesus after His crucifiction. Certainly she wouldn't be that callous. She certainly was there.

Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Mag'dalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salo'me, bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him.

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The Gospels are unanimous in describibing Mary, the mother of Jesus, as being present despite your efforts to ignore plain Scripture in order to deny Jesus had blood brothers (and sisters).

Further evidence from Scripture:

Acts 1:
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to visit Cephas, and remained with him fifteen days.
19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James the Lord's brother

Acts 1:
13* and when they had entered, they went up to the upper room, where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot and Judas the son of James.
14 All these with one accord devoted themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.
15 In those days Peter stood up among the brethren (the company of persons was in all about a hundred and twenty), and said,


Acts 1:14 is clear to define His mother, Mary and His brothers as distinct from the company of about 120 brethren.

3,349 posted on 11/27/2010 2:22:32 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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