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To: geologist; kosta50
As an Orthodox Christian, I'm all for the acceptance of Jesus Christ. What I have a problem with is the condemnation of a little Hindu girl in India that hasn't accepted Christ because that's not how she was raised. She's a good little girl that knows of Jesus because she she.

Then she dies in an accidental fire, and the "faith only" God sentences the little girl to suffer burning for eternity because she didn't believe in Jesus. That is evil. That is an evil God in my opinion. That is NOT love. That is NOT Christianity. That is a God that made a little girl he knew very well was going to follow the faith of her parents and then burns her forever for not believing in him.

There's no way anybody is ever going to convince me that that is not an evil God. That is why I want nothing to do with a "faith only" deity. I'd rather burn with that little girl that worship a God that evil.

I have a bunch of agnostic and atheist friends that don't worship Christ or God but they're very good people, and some of the most "Christian" people I have ever met. They are filled with compassion and love, and they do unto others as they would want done unto them. They just don't have the faith I was born with.

The "faith only" God condemns these friends of mine. Why make these wonderful and loving yet skeptical people only to later torture their souls for eternity because they happen to hold the same skepticism he gave them? Is that not evil? Again it's the little boy burning ants with a magnifying glass in the hot afternoon sun. I'm not worshiping that "kid" and he has nothing to do with a Christ that asks that his murderers be forgiven.A God that demands "faith" for salvation yet hides himself from so many that would gladly worship him if he weren't so remote to them is evil.

One of my favorite things about Orthodox Christianity is it's refusal to believe it knows where or how the Holy Spirit works outside Orthodox Christianity. That's an honesty few religions possess. That's a God with endless possibilities of love. That's a God I can, and do worship.

3,242 posted on 11/26/2010 10:00:43 AM PST by getoffmylawn (aka R.P. McMurphy)
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To: getoffmylawn

“Jesus because she she” should read “Jesus because she has a little friend that is a Christian.


3,243 posted on 11/26/2010 10:03:23 AM PST by getoffmylawn (aka R.P. McMurphy)
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To: getoffmylawn
The Holy Bible: King James Version. 2000.
The Psalms
139

God's Omnipresence and Omniscience
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.

1 O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me.

2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising;
thou understandest my thought afar off.

3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down,
and art acquainted with all my ways.

4 For there is not a word in my tongue,
but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.

5 Thou hast beset me behind and before,
and laid thine hand upon me.

6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;
it is high, I cannot attain unto it.

7 Whither shall I go from thy Spirit?
Or whither shall I flee from thy presence?

8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there:
if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

9 If I take the wings of the morning,
and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;

10 even there shall thy hand lead me,
and thy right hand shall hold me.

11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me;
even the night shall be light about me.

12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee;
but the night shineth as the day:
the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

13 For thou hast possessed my reins:
thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made:
marvelous are thy works;
and that my soul knoweth right well.

15 My substance was not hid from thee
when I was made in secret,
and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect;
and in thy book all my members were written,
which in continuance were fashioned,
when as yet there was none of them.

17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God!
How great is the sum of them!

18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand:
when I awake, I am still with thee.

19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God:
depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.

20 For they speak against thee wickedly,
and thine enemies take thy name in vain.

21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee?
And am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

22 I hate them with perfect hatred:
I count them mine enemies.

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart:
try me, and know my thoughts:

24 and see if there be any wicked way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting.

God knows all sees all and is everywhere present. We do not limit God. His ways are not our ways and His thoughts are not our thoughts. Trust God. He is GOOD, MERCIFUL, RIGHTEOUS, FAITHFUL, FULL OF LOVINGKINDNESS,... Trust Him.

WE ALL WORRY ABOUT the world of the not having heard God's Word. I believe they will hear, and I trust God with the ones that have not heard.

3,251 posted on 11/26/2010 11:11:40 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: getoffmylawn; geologist
A God that demands "faith" for salvation yet hides himself from so many that would gladly worship him if he weren't so remote to them is evil.

Unfortunately, that's what Paul and John profess.

One of my favorite things about Orthodox Christianity is it's refusal to believe it knows where or how the Holy Spirit works outside Orthodox Christianity. That's an honesty few religions possess

That is the God of the Church, yet its own scripture doesn't support it.

3,262 posted on 11/26/2010 12:31:43 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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