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To: boatbums; stfassisi
"...he[God] is entitled, no, obligated to hate that which is wrong/evil."

God is obligated, bb? By whom? This is exactly the sort of heretical thinking that the West is so prone to, namely that God is governed by an implacable and all powerful Necessity, that God really isn't "free" or omnipotent. If God Himself isn't free, how can we be free? The among the greatest gifts which God gives us is our freedom, or so we Orthodox believe, and it is precisely that freedom which creates the milieu within which the "rational flock, us, can become like God. And becoming like God, you will remember, is our created purpose.

bb, the next time you look at an icon of Christ, you will notice the Greek words, "Ο ΩΝ" written on it. They mean, very roughly, "the Being which creates Being (or the Existence which creates the state of Existence)". Such a "Being" is not subject to "Necessity". It is the origin of "Necessity", not subject to it. Positing that God is obligated or compelled to do or "feel" anything is dangerous thinking for Christians, bb.

A Blessed Thanksgiving Day to you and yours!

3,204 posted on 11/25/2010 3:39:01 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis; stfassisi
It could be that I should have chosen a different word to use than "obligated". I in no way am implying that God is obligated to do anything especially on our command. My point was to show that God is all-holy and all-righteous and he says he loves creation and all the good, righteous, and holy actions of that creation. He also has revealed that he hates, despises, abhors and finds abominable and detestable the things that are evil, that have resulted from the consequences of sin.

My statement in post# 3181 "But God can, so he is entitled, no, obligated to hate that which is wrong/evil. Don't you see that is all I'm trying to say here? Scripture says God says he hates certain behaviors. I do not think it is wrong for him to and I do not think it compromises his eternal nature of goodness, holiness, justice and purity. God says he loves certain things us especially, thank God, but also certain behaviors. Because he loves those behaviors it is logical that he would abhor or hate their converse."

When I used the word "obligated" is was simply to convey the idea that God, who alone is perfectly holy and righteous, is the only one who can validly, perfectly and justly reject and hate that which is against his will. He is both entitled to do that and under his own declared nature is obligated (bound legally and morally) to do it. He does not, cannot and will not ignore sin.

The opposite of love is NOT hate, it is indifference, and our creator is not indifferent.

3,225 posted on 11/25/2010 7:36:29 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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