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To: Kolokotronis
The Mohammedans hold that God dictated the Koran to Mohammad through the voice of the Angel Gabriel. It is actually the word of Allah. So far as I can see, that is precisely the position of many Protestants ( and only Protestants so far as I know) vis a vis the bible, but without the intermediary assistance of the Archangel.

I don't think you have a very good grasp of "Protestant" beliefs at all though your disdain IS NOT hard to miss. Do not the Jews believe that God wrote the Ten Commandments on the stone tablets and gave them to Moses on the mountain? Do they not also believe that God dictated the first five books of the Old Testament (the Torah) to Moses?

The Holy Spirit of God worked through men he inspired and they wrote down the words he intended them to. God himself has seen fit to also preserve these scriptures through the ages so that their truths are still available to us today. It does not matter to me at all what "Mohammedans" think about their scriptures. I have read many parts of it and I am not impressed at all. I see it for the sham it is.

I am sorry you have such little faith in the Scriptures from the only, true God. Without it, all else is shifting sands.

3,136 posted on 11/24/2010 4:00:28 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

“I don’t think you have a very good grasp of “Protestant” beliefs at all though your disdain IS NOT hard to miss.”

I may very well not have a good grasp of Protestant beliefs and I don’t doubt for a moment that my disdain for what I believe is Protestant is obvious. I meant it to be.

“Do not the Jews believe that God wrote the Ten Commandments on the stone tablets and gave them to Moses on the mountain? Do they not also believe that God dictated the first five books of the Old Testament (the Torah) to Moses? Do they not also believe that God dictated the first five books of the Old Testament (the Torah) to Moses?”

I suppose some do, even today. I have spent hours discussing the OT with my law partner’s father-in-law who was the chief rabbi of Budapest after WWII until the Communists took over. He doesn’t believe that literally at all, but that doesn’t shake his faith or belief that the 10 Commandments are an expression of what our lives are supposed to be.

“God himself has seen fit to also preserve these scriptures through the ages so that their truths are still available to us today.”

But bb, as my brother Kosta pointed out, the Vedas are just as preserved and are much, much older. Why did God preserve those? By your reasoning, you should run to the nearest Orthodox Church because we have the oldest continuous form of Christian worship. Its not that simple and I am confident you know that.

“I have read many parts of it and I am not impressed at all. I see it for the sham it is.”

I agree with you. My people, unlike Westerners, spent centuries with Mohammedan Turk overlords trying to jam it down our ethnic throat and destroy Christianity. But it didn’t work. Of course its a sham, but 1 billion Mohammedans disagree with us.

“I am sorry you have such little faith in the Scriptures from the only, true God.”

I have all sorts of faith in the Scriptures, bb. I believe they are useful for spiritual edification and the discernment of true dogma. I do not believe, as you apparently do and as the Church of Roman unfortunately dogmatized, that they are infallible and the inerrant precise words of our Triune God.

“Without it, all else is shifting sands.”

There we disagree, I fear. Among Christians, which groups would you say have done the most “shifting”, the Orthodox, the Roman Catholics or the various Protestant ecclesial groups?


3,142 posted on 11/24/2010 4:17:59 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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