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To: Natural Law
THAT TOO! You just touched on one of my biggest pet peeves about these Prots. They really should call themselves "Paulatians". They never seem to hesitate to quote St. Paul to help them contradict Christ. That is not Christianity!!

I've seen Kosta post very extensive lists of quotes from the Gospels that stress the importance of how 'works' are vital to our salvation, and each and every time the response is a quote from St. Paul to contradict that list.

I imagine their collective heads all cocked on an angle like a confused dog when they're presented with Kosta's list. If all the Bible is equally important, why do they always choose St. Paul over Christ whenever there's contradicting passages? Obviously they hold St. Paul in higher esteem than Christ. Again - that ain't Christianity. It's really time we stopped labeling it as such.

3,050 posted on 11/23/2010 1:32:00 PM PST by getoffmylawn (aka Sir Realist)
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To: kosta50

Sorry, forgot to ping you to this post.


3,051 posted on 11/23/2010 1:33:48 PM PST by getoffmylawn (aka Cool Brieze)
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To: getoffmylawn
" It's really time we stopped labeling it as such."

I am not going to spend any emotional energy on what the anti-Catholics do or do not believe. In the big picture it is completely irrelevant. I only get involved when they propagate obvious lies and falsehoods about the Church, its Catechism, dogma, history and clergy, but not for their benefit. I fear they are lost in their own willful blindness. Mere ignorance van be overcome.

3,054 posted on 11/23/2010 3:08:53 PM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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To: getoffmylawn; boatbums; All
This is an area of continuous confusion for many. As you suggested and described. However, the truth is clear to serious Bible readers that actually spend time reading the Bible and asking the Holy Spirit to give understanding of the Truth.

Works are not the means for salvation. When one gives their heart and life to Christ, the heart is changed.

When a person is redeemed by submitting to Jesus and the acceptance of salvation from Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, then it follows, sometimes slowly, the person desires to follow God's instructions, the commands of Jesus and do the good works that come as a result of being led to 'love our neighbor as our self/. The Good Samaritan parable is the example Jesus gave. The good deeds are to follow our Lord's instructions, and to be pleasing to Him. Not the means of salvation.

It is Satan that keeps people confused and misunderstanding the Scriptures. He is a master of deception. Agreed?

Father God, help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen.

3,212 posted on 11/25/2010 9:02:58 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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