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To: HarleyD; stfassisi; mas cerveza por favor; Kolokotronis
When exactly can we expect a Slavonic version

It's been around and in use since the 9th century AD (1,147 years ago to be more precise): the Slavonic Bible. If you need any help with reading it please let me know. I am fluent in Church Slavonic.

You know, and I mean this kindly, but if there are people like you who are scholars in critiquing different versions of scriptures, surely it wouldn't be hard to write a corrected version now would it?

Which makes we wonder why are Protestants coming out with different versions of the Bible almost every year?

Wait a minute Kosta. That is the typical, tired argument we get from the Catholics. If they were "duped" into endorsing this bible, then what other doctrine were the "duped" into?

Bible is not a "doctrine." The Orthodox Church teaches the same thing it taught back at the first Nicene Council. It worships the same way it is in the same century, to this day.

The Study Bible issue has to do with American Orthodoxy which is poisoned with Protestant converts who put on Orthodox vestments but kept their Protestant mindset.

And among the Greek-American hierarchy, it has something to do with what Kolo calls trying to be "white." (something the Greeks have been doing since the late 19th century and its's actually quote sad). It's politics, not doctrine.

You could take just about everything single document in the Orthodox church and start picking it apart

Really, such as? Let's see if you really know what you are talking about.

And if the Slavonic church doesn't agree with the Greek Orthodox in America, then who is right?

The issue is whether the KJV corresponds to the official Greek Orthodox Bible (in Greek) and the answer is no. It is not about Slavonic vs Greek Churches. KJV is simply not a true translation of the Greek Bible, as the example of Isaiah 9:5/6 illustrates clearly.

Orthodoxy sounds like a rudderless ship, each group left to do what they think is best.

The "rudderless" ship has been sailing just fine for a millennium; must be the Holy Spirit steering it. :) All orthodox believe the same thing. Some don;t believe, and for a good reason, that KJV is a true rendition of the Greek scriptures.

But such a comment coming form a Protestant community, which is about as rudderless as it gets, and where every Joe can and does start his own "church" if he doesn't like the pastor is a little over the top.

2,802 posted on 11/20/2010 11:40:13 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50; HarleyD; stfassisi; mas cerveza por favor
You all may find this article interesting regarding the attitude of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese towards translations and English language editions of the bible.

http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith7068

Here are a couple of snips:

"Unique characteristics such as idioms and colloquialisms make it impossible for an accurate translation of the meaning of the original language. Therefore, the translations should be used for the spiritual guidance of the believers, but not for the formulation of dogmatic teaching of the Church. This is why it cannot be said that the translations are "the inspired word of God."

and

"The many translations are necessary for spreading the word of God without any obstacles in communication. However, this should not diminish the significance of the original languages of the Bible, the Hebrew of the Old Testament and the Greek of the New Testament, and the language of the era when the books of the Scriptures were written. The study of the original languages is imperative for the correct understanding of the meaning of the Bible. The knowledge of the original languages is also imperative in order to translate the Scriptures into the vernacular. The knowledge of the original language is especially necessary for the doctrinal teaching of the Bible."

and finally,

"The Eastern Orthodox Church officially uses the Septuagint, the Greek Old Testament which was translated from the original Hebrew language into Greek in the third century B.C. The Septuagint of the Orthodox Church contains all the Canonical Books and the Anaginoskoinena Books "worthy to be read" (called Apocrypha in the English Versions). For the New Testament, the original Greek text is used by the Greek Church, while the other Orthodox Churches have translated the Bible into their own native languages from the original Greek, with the Slavonic translation the oldest. The Orthodox Church has not, as yet, translated the Bible into English and so has no official English translation. In the meantime, the Orthodox are temporarily using both the King James Version and the Revised Standard Version." "

2,805 posted on 11/21/2010 4:13:45 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: kosta50; stfassisi; mas cerveza por favor; Kolokotronis
It's been around and in use since the 9th century AD (1,147 years ago to be more precise): the Slavonic Bible.

The link you provided says it's temporarily unavailable. I find most websites update their sites early on Sunday morning. But I have found a downloadable version. Unfortunately I'm on another computer at the moment and will have to wait until later to download.

Which makes we wonder why are Protestants coming out with different versions of the Bible almost every year?

It's interesting that you are comparing the Orthodox to Protestants. The Orthodox seem to have demoninational differences right down to which Bible they want to use.

Bible is not a "doctrine."

The Bible is not a "doctrine" but doctrine has been formed around which bible people use.

The Orthodox Church teaches the same thing it taught back at the first Nicene Council. It worships the same way it is in the same century, to this day.

I believe somewhere I stated that the Orthodox are consistent in their views.

HD-You could take just about everything single document in the Orthodox church and start picking it apart.

Kosta-Really, such as? Let's see if you really know what you are talking about.

Which is the correct version; the Slavonic Bible or the American Greek Orthodox Bible?

All orthodox believe the same thing. Some don;t believe,... that KJV is a true rendition of the Greek scriptures

I see a contradiction.

2,806 posted on 11/21/2010 4:50:01 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: kosta50; HarleyD; stfassisi; mas cerveza por favor; Kolokotronis
You know, and I mean this kindly, but if there are people like you who are scholars in critiquing different versions of scriptures, surely it wouldn't be hard to write a corrected version now would it?

Which makes we wonder why are Protestants coming out with different versions of the Bible almost every year?

To be fair, there are also several "new-approved" Catholic Bibles too.

2,811 posted on 11/21/2010 10:07:09 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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