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To: Belteshazzar

What’s really breathtaking is that you seem to believe that Christ was crucified to satisfy the angry Father.

I believe it was an act of love form God who did not owe us anything and your view seems to be that Christ had to be crucified because we are owed Salvation.

It was a gift of Love beyond our comprehension


2,779 posted on 11/20/2010 12:58:24 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

Both are true. In Christ God’s justice was accomplished in that His righteous threat that “the soul that sins, it shall die” was carried out and God’s mercy was accomplished in that the Seed of the woman crushed the serpent’s head for us all that we might live and not die. God never lies, nor does His Word. Nor does He ever contradict Himself.

Is God’s mercy greater than His wrath? OBVIOUSLY!!! Read John 3:16 a thousand times, and then get back to me.

But one does not affirm His mercy toward sinners by denying His wrath toward sin. No, by that one only sows confusion and doubt, one only sets the wisdom of man against the wisdom of God, who alone is wise in things eternal.

stfassisi wrote:
“I believe it was an act of love form God who did not owe us anything and your view seems to be that Christ had to be crucified because we are owed Salvation.”

Great, so do I, as I have said over and over and over and over again! There is no Christian, nor ever has there been, who doesn’t believe that Christ’s vicarious atonement was an act of God’s love that is beyond our comprehension.

Where do you get “because we are owed salvation,” from anything I wrote? I will say openly that I find that remark offensive. But I will not call it what it is, because the rules of FR preclude me doing so on an open forum. But you know very well what it is!


2,783 posted on 11/20/2010 1:28:22 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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