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To: kosta50; HarleyD; stfassisi; mas cerveza por favor
HD: Our friend Kosta doesn't even believe in the existance of the full Septuagint as he just posted. Are you willing to take that stand?

OR: On this I agree with Kosta. There is not, nor ever has been, such a thing as a Septuagint.

Well, I never said that. The pre-Christian era Septuagint was completed, gradually, by about 150 BC. We just don't know with certainty what books were in that canon because only seven pre-Christian books are known to exist.

First, I apologize if I misunderstood your belief, or lack thereof, in one, authentic, complete Septuagint ever having been completed.

However, I can't help myself. To say "The pre-Christian era Septuagint was completed, gradually, by about 150 BC. We just don't know with certainty what books were in that canon because only seven pre-Christian books are known to exist."

Completed gradually from what? Bits and pieces? Fragrements located in many different places?

If we don't know with certainty what books were in that "complete" canon how is it possible to know one complete canon ever existed in the beginning?

As Bill O'Reilly says "I am a simple man". This simple man is of the belief you make a compelling case for the lack of a single, complete, authentic Septuagint.

Are we possibly talking past each other?

2,746 posted on 11/20/2010 9:59:50 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE

The Septuagint has never been located so it is believing in a ghost . There is no proof of its existence


2,747 posted on 11/20/2010 10:10:44 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: OLD REGGIE; HarleyD; stfassisi; mas cerveza por favor
Completed as in having added books in addition to Torah. How do we know that? Well, we have the five pre-Chrisitian era Law books and two of minor prophets. If they had minor prophets it makes sense to think they also had major prophets, and psalms which are very, very important part of Eastern Christian liturgy.

From Pauline Epistles, which were written circa AD 40-60 we have OT references which do not correspond to the Masoretic (aka "Hebrew" Bible or the targums), from more than just the Mosaic books and the two minor prohest, so there must have been material considered scriptural in Greek which included other parts of the Old Testament.

Other New Testament authors writing between AD 70-100 do the same thing. Philo of Alexandria, a Greek-speaking 1st century Jews speaks of the Septuagint, and so does the Jewish 1st century historian Josephus. Origen (latter half of the 2nd century) didn't doubt its existence, nor did any other Christian apologetic as far as I know.

So, there is ample evidence to conclude that some canon of Greek-language Jewish scriptures existed and were being used by Greekl-speaking Jewish diaspora. Exactly what that canon contained is not entirely certain, but obviously it contained some books not otherwise found in the Masoretic Text.

2,758 posted on 11/20/2010 11:18:44 AM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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