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To: stfassisi

stfassisi wrote:
“Your post is babble and accusations written in a condescending nature.”

On the other hand it could be that the problem doesn’t lie in the unclarity of the post. Also, preaching the law of God is pretty much what got all of the prophets killed. The Israelites found it ... well ...

stfassisi also wrote:
“It amazes me that you did not figure out when I spoke of Love crushing sin that God is Love and does not change from Love or God would be changed.”

So, it was the love of God that washed away the millions in the flood? It was the love of God that rained fire and brimstone and so destroyed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah? It was the love of God that left tens of thousands of dead in Egypt, and then tens of thousands of Israelites dead between Sinai and the Jordan? It was the love of God that destroyed first Samaria in 721 B.C. and then Jerusalem in 586 B.C.? It was the love of God that He inflicted on His own beloved Son on Calvary? It was the love of God that crushed and destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D.? Is that what you are saying?

Is it the love of God that those on Christ’s left hand will experience on judgment day? Have you read Matthew 25?

Is it the love of God we read of here? “And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:15)

“He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the WRATH OF GOD ABIDES ON HIM.” (John 3:36)

Please notice that I didn’t even once have to refer to anything that the much belittled Apostle Paul wrote.

No condescension, just fact. It only sounds like condescension, because it is God speaking to humanity, to Pharisee and tax collector alike.


2,741 posted on 11/20/2010 8:56:38 AM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Belteshazzar

Sin is disruptive,belt.Even the heavens were disrupted by lucifer’s pride. The power of love destroys evil and nature is disrupted. God does not Change from love,belt.

Perhaps Aquinas might help you on this...

That God hates nothing

AS love is to good, so is hatred to evil; we wish good to them whom we love, and evil to them whom we hate. If then the will of God cannot be inclined to evil, as has been shown , it is impossible for Him to hate anything.

2. The will of God tends to things other than Himself inasmuch as, by willing and loving His own being and goodness, He wishes it to be diffused as far as is possible by communication of His likeness. This then is what God wills in beings other than Himself, that there be in them the likeness of His goodness. Therefore God wills the good of everything, and hates nothing.

4. What is found naturally in all active causes, must be found especially in the Prime Agent. But all agents in their own way love the effects which they themselves produce, as parents their children, poets their own poems, craftsmen their works. Much more therefore is God removed from hating anything, seeing that He is cause of all.*

Hence it is said: Thou lovest all things that are, and hatest nothing of the things that Thou hast made (Wisd. xi, 25).

Some things however God is said, to hate figuratively (similitudinarie), and that in two ways. The first way is this, that God, in loving things and willing their good to be, wills their evil not to be: hence He is said to have hatred of evils, for the things we wish not to be we are said to hate. So it is said: Think no evil in your hearts every one of you against his friend, and love no lying oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the Lord (Zach. viii, 17). But none of these things are effects of creation: they are not as subsistent things, to which hatred or love properly attaches. The other way is by God’s wishing some greater good, which cannot be without the privation of a lesser good; and thus He is said to hate, whereas it is more properly love. Thus inasmuch as He wills the good of justice, or of the order of the universe, which cannot be without the punishment or perishing of some, He is said to hate those beings whose punishment or perishing He wills, according to the text, Esau I have hated (Malach. i, 3); and, Thou hatest all who work Iniquity, thou wilt destroy all who utter falsehood: the man of blood and deceit the Lord shall abominate (Ps. v, 7).

Also, Christ’s resurrection proves love conquers evil and sin


2,743 posted on 11/20/2010 9:12:49 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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