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To: metmom; mas cerveza por favor; RnMomof7; annalex; Quix; presently no screen name
mas said: The Church had always believed that Mary committed no sins and that her body was lifted to heaven upon apparent death or sleep.

"apparent" death?!?! metmom said: "Now she didn't really die? What next? She resurrected herself? If she committed no sin, she didn't need a savior and therefore lied when she sang her song in Luke and said *God, my savior,*. But then if she lied she wasn't without sin."

I just realized something, metmom: The RCC teaches that Mary was Immaculately conceived. That she was without sin her entire life.

The wages of sin is DEATH.

If they say Mary died, they are hoisted. They claim she never sinned.

So they MUST say 'apparently' or some such nonsense.

2,711 posted on 11/19/2010 3:39:45 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: smvoice; metmom
"apparent" death?!?! metmom said: "Now she didn't really die? What next? She resurrected herself? If she committed no sin, she didn't need a savior and therefore lied when she sang her song in Luke and said *God, my savior,*. But then if she lied she wasn't without sin."

I just realized something, metmom: The RCC teaches that Mary was Immaculately conceived. That she was without sin her entire life.

Mary needed a savior to preserve her from original sin and provide her with sanctifying grace. She is thought to have died but it was not possible to tell for sure since her body was assumed to heaven.

2,714 posted on 11/19/2010 4:01:37 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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