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To: annalex
Ask any Catholic Authority how do we know that Mary died a virgin and he will tell you, correctly, that we know that from the Holy Tradition.

Which leaves Holy Tradition at odds with the Holy Scriptures. Its one thing to do like the Mormons and alter doctrine over time, sort of like changing the rules in Poker in mid game, but according to Matthew's Gospel 1:24-25, Joseph is in the historical record as "knowing" his wife. Furthermore, both the LV and the TR include language that says that Mary had other sons. That is historical fact according to Matthew. If Holy Tradition now comes around and supersedes historical facts, then either Tradition is wrong or the Gospels is not Divinely Inspired making it less than Holy. You can't have something in realty happen and simultaneously not have it happen.

Virginity is not defined in terms of Quantum Mechanics.

2,291 posted on 11/16/2010 7:28:11 PM PST by The Theophilus
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To: The Theophilus
If Holy Tradition now comes around and supersedes historical facts, then either Tradition is wrong or the Gospels is not Divinely Inspired making it less than Holy. You can't have something in realty happen and simultaneously not have it happen.

That's a keeper.

2,298 posted on 11/16/2010 8:48:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: The Theophilus; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

You can’t have something in realty happen and simultaneously not have it happen.


While I agree with you, evidently many RC’s do not.

The Vatican Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling Matrix Moments create such black holes in theology 24/7/365.

It seems to be more than a habit and beyond a compulsion even . . . well into obsessive ritualized phantasmagorical fantasized dogma farce.

So one second the pseudo-Mary caricature is

Mary Meak and Mild full of grace, graciousness and humble gravity.

The next second she’s stomping into hell terrifying all the demons and taking charge of the dark abode.

So Quantum Mary Magnificent must fit right into the Alice in Wonderland Reality Mangling Matrix Moments sold by the case out of the Vatican Indulgences office.


2,311 posted on 11/16/2010 10:13:13 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: The Theophilus
according to Matthew's Gospel 1:24-25, Joseph is in the historical record as "knowing" his wife.

Read what is says, not what you think it says. It says, St. Joseph knew her not before she gave birth. In other words, the child was not Joseph's. That is all it says.

If Holy Tradition now comes around and supersedes historical facts

Now. It consists of historical facts. There is no "if".

3,101 posted on 11/24/2010 5:42:46 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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