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U-2012>Prior to the council of Nicea there is no corporation called the Roman catholic church. It was created out of whole cloth at Nicea by the Roman Pontiff Constantine.

Roman Pontiff did not attend the Council of Nicea in Turkey. It was convoked by the Emperor Constantine who was building his new capital in Turkey.

Easter had alway been celebrated. The issue was whether to celebrate only on Sunday, or according to the lunar calendar where the day of the week changes from year to year. Sunday had long been the regular day of worship for Christians. Constantine convoked council in hopes of preventing war between Church factions. He was not yet fully a member of the Church and did not take part in the theological discussions.

No. The Church has always encouraged vigorous debate following St. Paul's direction that Christians must "give reason for what you believe." The Catholic Church invented the university system and the accompanying academic freedom. However, prior the the Protestant/Enlightenment rejection of historical proof and linear logic, there was a difference in debate. Pursuit of truth was considered necessary and the debater was required to provide proofs of his position. The idea that "freedom of speech" includes the right of willful lying is a modern falsehood. The Catholic belief is that error has no rights.

You seem to vincibly ignorant.

Constantine was a Roman Pontiff as were all Roman Emperors since prior to 300 BCE through ~385 CE.

Emperor Constantine was baptized on his deathbed by a heretic.

Easter was created by the council of Nicea rejecting the YHvH commanded Feast of Passover.

You ignore the Albigensians (Over the twenty year period of this campaign an estimated 200,000 to 1,000,000 people were killed).

John Huss, a Bohemian preacher of reformation, was burned at the stake on July 6, 1415.
Pope Martin V issued a bull on 17 March 1420 which proclaimed a crusade "for the
destruction of the Wycliffites, Hussites and all other heretics in Bohemia".

The Crusades in the Middle East also spilled over into conquest of Eastern
Orthodox Christians by Roman Catholics and attempted suppression of the Orthodox Church.
The Waldenses were as well persecuted by the Catholic Church, but survive up to this day.

This just a short list; check out Innocent III; he murdered millions

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
2,184 posted on 11/15/2010 6:26:26 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Well put.

THx.


2,192 posted on 11/15/2010 6:54:22 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Constantine was a Roman Pontiff as were all Roman Emperors since prior to 300 BCE through ~385 CE.

Where did you get such nonsense? St. Sylvester I was pope during the Council of Nicea in 325. No emperor ever served as pope.

You ignore the Albigensians (Over the twenty year period of this campaign an estimated 200,000 to 1,000,000 people were killed).

Albigensians were not Christian. Read up on them before you respond.

John Huss, a Bohemian preacher of reformation, was burned at the stake on July 6, 1415. Pope Martin V issued a bull on 17 March 1420 which proclaimed a crusade "for the destruction of the Wycliffites, Hussites and all other heretics in Bohemia".

The Hussites had already destroyed the Churches and monasteries and slaughtered the Catholics of Bohemia. This was my original post:

"For 1500 years, the Catholic Church authenticated its teaching by reference to its scripture in the context of history. No Christian ever thought to question this basic understanding of reality."

Neither the Albigensians nor Hussites were Protestants. Are you saying these groups were Christians who questioned teaching according to history?

The Crusades in the Middle East also spilled over into conquest of Eastern Orthodox Christians by Roman Catholics and attempted suppression of the Orthodox Church.

The sack of Constantinople of by Crusaders was strongly opposed by the pope but he could not control the soldiers at a distance. It was a great tragedy, but the city had a massive collection of wealth and no fighting men to defend it. Westerners at the time kept up their fighting skills by frequent wars. No pile of treasure in the West would have survived if left undefended.

2,214 posted on 11/15/2010 8:53:05 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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