mas cerveza por favor (jeste jednou pivo, prosim) wrote:
“The scriptural precedent for apostolic succession is at the end of Acts 1 when Peter led the eleven apostles to chose a successor for Judas. The Apostles had just received instructions from the Risen Christ that included His infallible interpretation of the ways that OT prophesies had just been fulfilled. Peter invoked an OT prophesy on Judas, and, exercising his authority as pope, gave instructions to replace Judas as “bishop.” All the Apostles dutifully obeyed.”
No. Judas was replaced as an apostle, and this by direct indication of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 1:26) Which other of the apostles were replaced? When? By whom? And why was, according to Roman logic, only one, Peter, replaced, and not 12? No, you read into the text what you want to see, not what is. Besides which, if Psalm 109:8 referred to Judas, and since the inspired St. Luke tells us that this is so, it must be, then it was Scripture, the Word of God, that determined that Judas was to be replaced as an Apostle, not Peter.
Peter also once walked on water at the command of His Lord. Does his successor also? Examples do not doctrine make.
mcpf also wrote:
“The scriptural precedent for the infallibility of papally certified Church councils was the First Church Council in Jerusalem recorded in Acts 15. Peter, Paul, Barnabas, and James where led by the Holy Spirit to established rules for Christian Gentiles. This was done over the objections of the Judaizers that had apparently been associated with James and had temporarily fooled Peter and Barnabas (Gal 2:11-13)”
Again, no. The authority of the council is grounded in God alone, first, in the direct revelation to Peter while at Joppa, and second, in the Holy Scriptures of the OT, from which one specifically is quoted in full: Amos 9:11-12. Again, you read into the Scriptures what you want to be there.
Thank you for confirming the undeniable. Many other Protestants on this thread apparently do not believe in scripture.
Besides which, if Psalm 109:8 referred to Judas, and since the inspired St. Luke tells us that this is so, it must be, then it was Scripture, the Word of God, that determined that Judas was to be replaced as an Apostle, not Peter.
Another excellent insight. I am willing to concede that Peter acted as an instrument of the Holy Spirit
The authority of the council is grounded in God alone, first, in the direct revelation to Peter while at Joppa, and second, in the Holy Scriptures of the OT, from which one specifically is quoted in full: Amos 9:11-12. Again, you read into the Scriptures what you want to be there.
Right. Peter and the Apostles acted infallibly at this council as the conduit of God's authority.