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To: mas cerveza por favor; caww; metmom; Quix
Thank you for sharing your testimony, dear brother/sister in Christ!

Truly, I should have explained that I was speaking of Spiritual genealogy, not physical genealogy.

Apparently, it is the Holy Spirit's own will to move by the laying on of the hands:

Peter learned in the conversion of Cornelis that God moves according to His own will:

And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as [he did] unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? – Acts 11:15-17

As another example, the Red Sea did not part because Moses lifted his rod, rather God parted it according to Moses' faith that He would do so if he did.

And the LORD said unto Moses, Wherefore criest thou unto me? speak unto the children of Israel, that they go forward: But lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea, and divide it: and the children of Israel shall go on dry [ground] through the midst of the sea. - Exodus 14:15-16

And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go [back] by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry [land], and the waters were divided. - Exodus 14:21

Moses believed God and trusted Him. The glory for the parting of the Red Sea goes to God, not Moses.

Likewise, when our prayers are answered, the glory goes to God, not to the one(s) praying.

Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. – Mark 11:24-26

And likewise the glory for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit goes to God, not to the men who laid their hands on the converts.

And again,

And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, [even] as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are ye able.

For ye are yet carnal: for whereas [there is] among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I [am] of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

Who then is Paul, and who [is] Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. – I Corinthians 3:1-7

There are no magic words or deeds.

It is "about" God - loving Him, believing Him and trusting Him.

Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. - Matthew 9:29

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

1,783 posted on 11/14/2010 10:01:05 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Am catching up on the thread now and just have to say again how I love seeing Gods word used so fluently...thank you...and I will also say how smooth it flows within the context of discussion. This is one of the many reasons I love the Lord so very much...His word does indeed accomplish what he sets it out to do....truth is supported time and again and again.

You are absolutely correct in saying that the glory goes to God...in every way. When we can see Him move across these threads, as His word goes out, it is beyond describing....many thanks to all.


1,865 posted on 11/14/2010 6:03:10 PM PST by caww
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