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To: mas cerveza por favor
Is the mechanics of Judas' replacement more important than the fact that it took place?

They were not instructed by God to replace Judas. Peter took that on himself to make that decision.

It was not a church council of any kind because the church had not received power from on high as of yet.

It was done in the flesh, without the leading of the Holy Spirit, who had not been given yet.

If the Catholic church wishes to base their whole doctrine of the papacy and apostolic succession based on the carnal, misguided actions of a group which was not even the church yet and had no capability to use spiritual discernment, that's their prerogative, but it's still foolhardy. They weren't right the first time they did it (in Acts 1) and the Catholic church is not going to be right every time after it that it does it.

1,730 posted on 11/13/2010 8:27:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

That’s pretty much my conviction, too.


1,735 posted on 11/13/2010 9:23:30 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom
They were not instructed by God to replace Judas. Peter took that on himself to make that decision.

Where did you get this information?

It was not a church council of any kind because the church had not received power from on high as of yet.

Successor bishops are not appointed by council.

It was done in the flesh, without the leading of the Holy Spirit, who had not been given yet.

Jesus have come to them and given them voluminous on what to do next. They were likely following his instructions.

If the Catholic church wishes to base their whole doctrine of the papacy and apostolic succession based on the carnal, misguided actions of a group which was not even the church yet and had no capability to use spiritual discernment, that's their prerogative, but it's still foolhardy. They weren't right the first time they did it (in Acts 1) and the Catholic church is not going to be right every time after it that it does it.

On what basis do you say the Apostles were not right? The Catholic Church bases its doctrine of apostolic succession on the historical fact that all the first apostles had successors, not only Judas.

1,756 posted on 11/13/2010 11:35:22 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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