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The miracle of the Church is that it can survive popes like John Paul II.

Whatever happened to *infallible in the matter of faith and morals*?

If the RCC has popes in it like JPII, then what about all the decisions he makes? What about the blessings on others that he allegedly bestows? Are they not valid?

Aren't Catholics obligated to follow the pope at risk of losing their salvation if they don't?

How could the Church make such a *mistake* as appointing a *bad* pope?

1,631 posted on 11/12/2010 9:03:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Aren't Catholics obligated to follow the pope at risk of losing their salvation if they don't?

All Catholics need to realize they kissed the Koran, also. Whether they agree or not w/his actions. They already put themselves in his hands. The dangers of following man truly leads to destruction.
1,639 posted on 11/12/2010 9:23:48 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: metmom

Now now.

The White Hankys just can’t cover impertinent questions very well. How dare you.
/s


1,645 posted on 11/13/2010 4:00:27 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom
Whatever happened to *infallible in the matter of faith and morals*?

The pope is infallible in defining faith and morals. Not in his personal behavior.

If the RCC has popes in it like JPII, then what about all the decisions he makes? What about the blessings on others that he allegedly bestows? Are they not valid?

The offices of priest or bishop were instituted by Christ as conduits for His blessings that come from Christ. The personal faults of the man do not affect the blessings.

Aren't Catholics obligated to follow the pope at risk of losing their salvation if they don't?

Yes normally, but that does not override the requirement to avoid sin and error.

How could the Church make such a *mistake* as appointing a *bad* pope?

How could Christ make the "mistake" of appointing a bad apostle like Judas and a weak pope like Peter? Christ founded His Church upon weak men so it would remain dependent upon Him.

1,654 posted on 11/13/2010 8:39:56 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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