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To: editor-surveyor; metmom; Belteshazzar; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ...
“Call no man Father”

Apparently a lot of the Apostles did not get the memo on that. Acts 22:1, 1 John 2:13.

Pastors that are unmarried

The Church can bind and loose on that (Mt 18:18). Some are married others are not. We sure don't have priests that have more than one wife, in accordance with 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1.

‘Salvation’ by works

We don't teach salvation by works. We teach salvation by grace alone through faith and good works (Eph 2:5-10) (no these are not the same as works of the law).

Prayer to the dead.

Where is that forbidden in the scripture? Maccabees has a direct example; it is not our problem that you truncated your Bible.

Repetitive prayer.

Jesus repeated His prayers. What Matthew 6:7 condemns is not repetition in itself but the idea that unless they repeat the prayer they are not heard.

Purgatory. Clear scripture on that, 1 Cor 3:9-15.

Seances in place of the rememberance of Communion

Huh? Christ said, "this is my body", and we take Him at his word.

Following traditions of men.

Those men are "bishops [who] rule the church of God" (Acts 20:28). Worry about following traditions of charlatans like Luther instead. Who appointed him?

Statues/idols worshiped and revered.

We don't worship idols. We venerate Holy Images. See reference to the Crucifix in Gal 3:1. See instruction to venerate the icons of God and be trasnformed by them in 2 Corinthians 3:18.

Relecs worshiped and revered

They are venerated, just like the holy Images. See an example of that in Acts 19:12

Secret confession booths

Nowhere in the Bible is that prohibited.

Just what do catholics do that is scriptural?

The authoority of the apostolic Church, the necessity of the sacraments of the Church, salvation being a result of a life time of sanctification through faith and good works, -- all these are things that are scriptural and denied by the Protestant heretics.

1,597 posted on 11/12/2010 6:36:34 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; editor-surveyor; metmom; Belteshazzar; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ..
In junior high we used to have this saying, "He's not conceited, he's convinced!". Those who have been so indoctrinated, so deeply, would take a miracle of God to budge loose from what they are absolutely convinced of.

I would hope that any person sincerely seeking the truth of God's word will look up each of the so-called proof texts you have provided and see for themselves how convoluted and twisted each of them have been to conform to your religion's doctrines. Those who are "past hope" will only see whatever they are told to and will never grasp the infinite beauty, majesty and heartbreaking wonder of GRACE that our Lord has so richly poured upon us.

1,615 posted on 11/12/2010 7:31:06 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: annalex
Purgatory. Clear scripture on that, 1 Cor 3:9-15.

It is only clear to those that can not rightly divide the word of God

This chapter deals with MINISTRIES

There was division in the church ..some said they were followers of Apollos and some said they followed Paul .. Paul was writing to them not to look at the preacher but to Christ.. With that back round read the word with me

! Cor:3: 1And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon
. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's WORK abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15If any man's WORK shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

16Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

18Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
21Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

22Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; 23And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

This scripture has nothing to do with sins or purgatory.

The message is that God will judge a mans WORKS .. in context their ministries.. those that are God ordained and true will be rewarded ..those that are not will be destroyed,( without eternal reward )...

This scripture does not address men "paying" for their own sin.. but rather having their works tested and judged

1,649 posted on 11/13/2010 7:59:54 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: annalex
The authoority of the apostolic Church, the necessity of the sacraments of the Church, salvation being a result of a life time of sanctification through faith and good works, -- all these are things that are scriptural and denied by the Protestant heretics.

Could you provide the scriptural references for Jesus teaching the principle or gift of Apostolic succession ? Could you provide the scripture where God ordained a new testament priesthood? Could you provide the scriptural reference for an infallible papacy or even an infallible teaching by the church ? Could you provide the scriptural reference for 7 sacraments instituted by Christ or where he teaches that they give grace ?

1,652 posted on 11/13/2010 8:21:33 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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