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To: annalex; OLD REGGIE; presently no screen name; RnMomof7; metmom; Belteshazzar; 1000 silverlings; ...
there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written. (John 21)

And since these "other things" were not written down by His apostles, we have ZERO knowledge of them. Therefore, these "other things" are none of our business.

But Rome, in its manic hubris, concocts fictitious events and tells its gullible followers that its many superstitions come under the rubric of "other things" which were neither written down nor taught by Christ and the early church.

"Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;

Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm." -- 1 Timothy 1:4-7


1,545 posted on 11/12/2010 12:52:00 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“And since these “other things” were not written down by His apostles, we have ZERO knowledge of them.”

But the imagination can fill in the gaps with worship of designated saints and their supposed relics, mythical stories of Mary’s mother, etc.

“But Rome, in its manic hubris, concocts fictitious events and tells its gullible followers that its many superstitions come under the rubric of “other things” which were neither written down nor taught by Christ and the early church.”

Quite so!


1,549 posted on 11/12/2010 1:13:43 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Quix; annalex

Plus, “any traditions” they were to hold fast to, happened before Paul wrote his letters and were already established in the church, ie, meeting together, communion, baptism, not the “traditions” say from whenever men decided they were, esp the Roman Catholic church


1,550 posted on 11/12/2010 1:23:04 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; OLD REGGIE; presently no screen name; RnMomof7; metmom; Belteshazzar; ...
we have ZERO knowledge of them

You are speaking of what YOU know? Perhaps. However, the Church being a collective of people dedicated to the preservation of the faith certainly had knowledge of things that happened yet were not recorded at the time. For example, St. John wouldn't be able to write "there are also many other things which Jesus did" unless he knew of these unrecorded things. That body of knowledge therefore is larger than the scripture, -- by the inerrant word of the scripture itself. It is not lost altogether: it is the body of knowledge that tells us, for example, that Mary was virgin all her life, that the Church understood the nature of baptism and the Eucharist exactly how we understand it today; that prayers for the dead and to the saints are an integral part of worshiping God, -- all that which we know as the Holy Tradition of the Church

2,491 posted on 11/17/2010 5:52:37 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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