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To: boatbums
"We agree about the main thing which is Christ died, was buried and rose again for our salvation that God gifts to us by grace through faith - you know, the GOSPEL."

But you can't honestly say you have never witnessed it towards anyone who is or sympathizes with Catholics. The endless shrill tirade against "Rome" that takes place here on a daily basis, the fabricated images and outlandish lies told for no reason other than to damage the Church, the oh so carefully worded insults meant to finesse the rules and game the mods certainly aren't intended to promote Christian ecumenicalism.

1,355 posted on 11/10/2010 10:08:36 PM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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To: Natural Law; boatbums
The endless shrill tirade against "Rome" that takes place here on a daily basis, the fabricated images and outlandish lies told for no reason other than to damage the Church, the oh so carefully worded insults meant to finesse the rules and game the mods certainly aren't intended to promote Christian ecumenicalism.

And just what do you do to promote Christian ecumenicalism? I seem to recall a number of those carefully worded to finesse the RF guideline posts that have been removed have been yours.

1,357 posted on 11/10/2010 10:16:13 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law; boatbums
The endless shrill tirade against "Rome" that takes place here on a daily basis, the fabricated images and outlandish lies told for no reason other than to damage the Church, the oh so carefully worded insults meant to finesse the rules and game the mods certainly aren't intended to promote Christian ecumenicalism.

And refresh my memory.... How many thread have you been kicked off of for such behavior already?

1,358 posted on 11/10/2010 10:17:02 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law
But you can't honestly say you have never witnessed it towards anyone who is or sympathizes with Catholics. The endless shrill tirade against "Rome" that takes place here on a daily basis, the fabricated images and outlandish lies told for no reason other than to damage the Church, the oh so carefully worded insults meant to finesse the rules and game the mods certainly aren't intended to promote Christian ecumenicalism.

Well, you know yourself how difficult it can be hold our temper back when our own beliefs are challenged, and our doctrines that we hold dear are criticized. But I know, too, that it's not just talking about a football team and a game or even something that I myself created like a song or a painting. Those kinds of things are personal and nobody likes to be criticized or insulted in that realm. It takes a lot of fortitude to be judged on our own accomplishments.

Our Christian faith has to be entirely different in that sense. It is not just an individual or personal area and it affects others in ways that deal with ours and their eternal consequences. Our faith, though we call it that, is not really "ours" but a shared one and one that is encompassing across time and distance. It is the same faith that was originally taught by Jesus Christ himself and is still just as relevant to us today as it was 2000 years ago.

I admit that I sometimes dislike the discourse on these forums. I try very hard to stay away from posting unless I feel God telling me to add something of value to the discussion. I don't really think anyone here is purposely viscous or hurtful. The best advice is to be responsible for only what you post and ignore comments that do not add substance to the discussion. If anyone "lies", the lie should be exposed by the truth, not just empty insults. There are many people who read these forums that we never hear from, so speak to them if you can't tolerate answering the offending poster.

Some unasked for advice, but I hope it helps you.

1,362 posted on 11/10/2010 11:04:43 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Natural Law; boatbums; presently no screen name; 1000 silverlings; metmom; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ...

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> “The endless shrill tirade against ‘Rome’ that takes place here on a daily basis, the fabricated images and outlandish lies told for no reason other than to damage the Church, the oh so carefully worded insults meant to finesse the rules and game the mods certainly aren’t intended to promote Christian ecumenicalism.”

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“Christian ecumenicalism,” whatever that might be!

Certainly not scriptural:

Matthew 10:
[34] Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
[35] For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
[36] And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
[37] He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
[38] And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

Is that the ecumen that you seek, or is it the gathering of every wacko cultist on Earth under the head cultist, the pope?


1,383 posted on 11/11/2010 9:05:27 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Natural Law
towards anyone who is or sympathizes with Catholics.

Trust me, I sympathize in a big way!
1,384 posted on 11/11/2010 9:23:19 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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