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To: presently no screen name
"It's not what Catholics believe - since those beliefs are so wide and varied. It's the heresy the Vatican proclaims..."

It shouldn't matter what the Vatican proclaims to those who do not accept the primacy of the Bishop of Rome. Those who intrude or object in a matter that clearly, by their own admission, doesn't involve them are nothing more than nosy busybodies.

Christians - those who are 'in Christ' who believe in His Word ALONE for HE is The Living Word."

This accurately describes the Catholic Church because we believe in the entire revealed Word, inclusive of Apostolic Tradition. We reject your interpretations as incomplete and flawed and overly influenced by a stand alone view of the Letters of Paul and other unscriptural posings of the so-called reformation.

I personally have no interest in learning or exploring what you (pl) do or don't believe. I have no intention of leaving the Church begun by Christ Himself.

1,328 posted on 11/10/2010 8:06:55 PM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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To: Natural Law; presently no screen name

Can you ever stay on topic?

We ask for substantiation for RCC doctrine and you call us busybodies?

We point out the wide variety of beliefs that the Catholic church in practice teaches its parishioners, and you again call us busybodies?

How about trying to address the topic instead of resorting to the tactic of losers of debates, resorting to name calling and strawmen?


1,329 posted on 11/10/2010 8:17:22 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law; presently no screen name
This accurately describes the Catholic Church because we believe in the entire revealed Word, inclusive of Apostolic Tradition.

All that's needed is the WRITTEN word, not the fairy tales that the Catholic church added later and CLAIMS are truth that no one can substantiate from an objective source.

RCC tradition says that tradition is equal to Scripture in authority.

How convenient.....

1,330 posted on 11/10/2010 8:20:35 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law
It shouldn't matter what the Vatican proclaims to those who do not accept the primacy of the Bishop of Rome.

It matters when the Vatican claims they are the true church while teaching heresy. Jesus said resist satan, not embrace him. So, it matters BIG TIME! Unless, of course, deception is your thing.

No Christian would accept primacy of man and bow and kiss the ring. GOD IS SUPREME! We only bow to HIM, Hear and OBEY HIM. The Spirit of God lives within His own and not in 'Rome'. God is a personal God.

doesn't involve them are nothing more than nosy busybodies.

Yeah, deception doesn't like the light shining down on it. It must yank your chain - showing The RCC is the counterfeit church with Scripture after Scripture. So, please, please busybodies enough with the Light!

Catholic Church because we believe in the entire revealed Word

The power is in The Written Word of God. As Jesus taught us for It is Written.

We reject your interpretations as incomplete and flawed and overly influenced by a stand alone view of the Letters of Paul and other unscriptural posings of the so-called reformation.

"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned."

Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean NOT on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge HIM, and He will make your paths straight.

I have no intention of leaving the Church begun by Christ Himself.

How could you leave if you aren't in HIS CHURCH to begin with?
1,347 posted on 11/10/2010 9:19:28 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: Natural Law; presently no screen name; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; ...
It shouldn't matter what the Vatican proclaims to those who do not accept the primacy of the Bishop of Rome.

Because the Vatican and the *Bishop of Rome* claim primacy over EVERYONE and that THEY are the way to heaven. They claim they are the one true church founded on Peter.

Our interest is in alerting the unsuspecting of the lies that that the RCC teaches and the contradictions to the clear meaning of the written, inspired by God, Scripture so that they can make a well informed decision to either follow Christ alone, or follow Christ, plus Mary, plus the pope, plus whoever and whatever else the Catholic church decides to add to the mix.

Jesus is all we need for a sure salvation. HE is the way, the truth, the life. No man comes to the Father but through HIM. (John 14:6)

Nothing else and no one else.

1,351 posted on 11/10/2010 9:44:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law; presently no screen name
It shouldn't matter what the Vatican proclaims to those who do not accept the primacy of the Bishop of Rome. Those who intrude or object in a matter that clearly, by their own admission, doesn't involve them are nothing more than nosy busybodies.

So then by the same token, it shouldn't matter to Catholics what non-catholics say about the faith either? Who do you think even started all this "heresy here, heresy there, let's kill all the heretics everywhere" efforts in the first place?

When you know the truth you are compelled to share it with those who do not. Some people, who are earnestly seeking for it, rejoice and accept it with open arms. While others, who are convinced they alone are right, reject everything that does not conform to their own ideas of truth - regardless if what they think is true is not. Our only authority for truth about God is the Holy Bible, which HE gave to us THROUGH men who he inspired to write them.

Lastly, what makes you think anyone is trying to make you leave your church? God is who guides us to our spiritual home and family. No person, especially not anonymous posters would ever try to. If a person is right with the Lord they will be open and sensitive to wherever he leads them. I pray you find that soul-home where you are nurtured in the Word and strengthened in your faith with others of like mind.

1,359 posted on 11/10/2010 10:21:24 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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