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To: Belteshazzar
"All Scripture is stand alone."

You have stumbled upon one of the irreconcilable differences between Protestantism and Christianity. To claim that the letters of Paul are equal to the actual teachings of Christ Himself diminishes the birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus. It makes Him an unnecessary side story in the Revealed Word.

I am a Christian, not a Biblican, Paulican or Protestant precisely because I believe that the highest order in the Revealed Word are the teachings of Jesus. The rest of the Bible is important only in how it prepares for and supports those teachings.

History is full of the record of charlatans who have claimed that God spoke exclusively to them and they, for some price or concession, will pass it along to you. Jesus broke from that practice and let others, eye witnesses, relay His teachings. To put the out of context versus and letters of Paul on par with the direct quotes of Jesus makes a charlatan of Paul.

1,248 posted on 11/10/2010 6:52:33 AM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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To: Natural Law

Of course I said nothing remotely like what you are asserting. Instead of reading (and thinking about) what I said, you just got up on your soap box and began declaiming. By Christ’s own declaration, we know that the entirety of the Scriptures is about Him. And although in the context of John 5:39, He is speaking about the then existent Scriptures, i.e., the OT, by extension and by the explicit statements of His own personally chosen apostles, the NT is also all about Him.

If you want to see the OT as the introduction to Him, the Gospels as actually presenting Him, and the rest of the NT as providing commentary on the Gospels, that is pretty much the truth of it. But again, which part of this tripartite proclamation of the Christ, the Son of God and Son of Man, is not given from heaven, is not the Word of God? Which part is less truthful than which other part? Which part is not about Christ?

Finally, I haven’t “stumbled upon” anything. I went right into the darkened room in which you are fumbling around and laid my hands on “one of the irreconcilable differences between” the Roman wing of Christianity and the Christian wing of Christianity (to somewhat paraphrase the hapless Howard Dean). So, let me say it again, child of Rome, the letters of Paul (and of Peter, James, John, and all the rest) are the actual teachings of Christ Himself. They differ in no way from anything that came out of His mouth. He is the King, they the ambassadors. The ambassadors say nothing that the King doesn’t will them to say. To believe otherwise is make God the author of confusion.

Projecting one’s own confusion onto God is not a salutary manner of proceeding.


1,249 posted on 11/10/2010 8:49:32 AM PST by Belteshazzar
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