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To: annalex; Belteshazzar; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ...
Belteshazzar: Without the Holy Scriptures the Catholic Church is nothing

Annalex: This is plainly not true. With or without the Scripture the sacraments of the Church remain and the institutions of the Church remains. All that happens is that written teaching becomes oral teaching.

Just wow. The RCC doesn't need the Word of God. Straight from a Catholic's keyboard.

Another one for your list, gamecock.

1,158 posted on 11/08/2010 6:37:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; annalex; Belteshazzar

Well I do consider the journeys some take in arriving at the Catholic Church, where they see the church as all important. Some have been involved in the past with churches/denominations which are off the wall and or caused them great anguish...they then look for another to ease the pain and or disappointment they suffered, consciously or not it does seem to be a standard for some. Then it is not at all uncommon for them to lash out at the other faiths which harmed them. That happens when one puts too much faith in the church they attend...... Unfortunatley it is a false safety as ones security lays only in Christ and His word...never a church organization.


1,160 posted on 11/08/2010 6:49:33 PM PST by caww
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To: metmom; annalex; Belteshazzar; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; ...

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> “Just wow. The RCC doesn’t need the Word of God. Straight from a Catholic’s keyboard”

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This is nothing new.

Catholics have been trying to eradicate the word of God since the catholic apostasy was founded in the fourth century.

The catholic church is just one of Satan’s organizations to defeat the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and they’re all working to erode his word.
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1,161 posted on 11/08/2010 7:02:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: metmom; annalex; Gamecock

As much as we disagree, annalex is the most HONEST of the RCCs we encounter. He tells us what Catholics truly believe/teach without the whitewash. I do respect him for that. IMHO, if I needed to know a truthful answer about a certain Catholic teaching, annalex is the one I would ask.


1,163 posted on 11/08/2010 7:12:02 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: metmom; annalex

In all fairness, metmom, annalex did not say that the “RCC doesn’t need the Word of God.” He said that they didn’t need the Holy Scriptures, that is to say, the written word of God. He then averred that the RCC could get along just fine with oral teaching.

However, such a position begs the question of why God gave His Word to the apostles and evangelists to be written down. God, manifestly, thought that it was necessary for His people to have His Word in written form since He gave it in such form. That any disciple of Christ would so blithely relinquish the written word of God (even if only to score a cheap debate point) is evidence of either a) an extreme (and unfathomable) optimism when it comes to the nature of man or b) a breath-taking lack of regard (if not reverence) for God and what He has done to enlighten sin-darkened man. I don’t know which is more lamentable or more frightening.


1,164 posted on 11/08/2010 7:16:05 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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The RCC doesn't need the Word of God

If the Church had not needed the scripture, she would not have given it to the world. But, self-evidently, the Church would have done fine if for some reason the scripture were not around, just like she did in the beginning of her existence. The Church that Christ built is the foundation of the scripture, not the other way around.

1,287 posted on 11/10/2010 5:48:18 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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