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In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: reformation; savedbygrace
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To: Gamecock
Geeze don't be paranoid, I have no issue, just wondered for a long time why Paul called himself an apostle. In the flesh he was not, his name was changed from Saul to Paul, but I just didn't think Jesus ever called him that..It seems to me that just because no one argued with him, didn't necessarily make him an apostle, disciple yes I would agree with that....

As I said, it was a sincere question. But your only point was that no one argued with him about it....so I still have no reason as to why he called himself that...

81 posted on 10/31/2010 9:28:51 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: smvoice
Again, that is Paul calling himself an apostle....The apostles were differentiated from the disciples by Christ were they not? (question)

Matthias was an apostle by having the lot fall to him, even Judas was called an apostle, it seems to me that Paul took it upon himself to say he was an apostle. Doesn't seem right.

That would not make his writing less, just that he is a self appointed apostle..

82 posted on 10/31/2010 9:37:21 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: boatbums; Natural Law
boatbums to NL: I'm wondering what "lie about the teaching of Rome" had come up when you first piped up on post #8? The original thread was about praising the Lord in song

The thread is an open thread, boatbums. Besides, if you read #8, it pretty much answers your question, so what's the point of it?

Even Gnostics and Mormons praise Jesus. Does that mean, one can not raise objections to that on an open thread? Change the thread to a reformed Caucus and pat each other on the back without interference. Ask RnMomof7 why she made it an open thread.

83 posted on 10/31/2010 9:39:05 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50; Gamecock; RnMomof7; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
"But it could be worse."

Protestantism declared war on Christianity nearly 500 years ago. Although they no longer take up arms against the Church or destroy relics and religious art the warfare has not stopped. Today it is a campaign of lies, mistruths and innuendo. Instead of spreading those lies through a pillow case with eye-holes they use the anonymity of the internet. In every war, truth is alway the first casualty.

84 posted on 10/31/2010 9:39:05 PM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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To: Natural Law; Religion Moderator; Gamecock; RnMomof7; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
In every war, truth is always the first casualty

I just wonder if posting FReeper's quotes on someone Homepage is within Religion Forum rules. Especially if a FReeper is listed as belonging to one group when he is not.

[RM: Gemecock quotes me on his Homepage as a "FRoman Catholic" and I am not Roman Catholic]

85 posted on 10/31/2010 9:47:21 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50

someone=someone’s


86 posted on 10/31/2010 9:48:03 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50

Gemecock=Gamecock, sorry.


87 posted on 10/31/2010 9:49:33 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50

I’ve seen posters quoting other posters on their own profile pages for both ridicule and rememberance.


88 posted on 10/31/2010 9:56:31 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
I’ve seen posters quoting other posters on their own profile pages for both ridicule and rememberance

Thank you, RM. That's fine. My objection is not that he quoted me, but the fact that he has me identified as a Catholic, which I never was. It would be like identifying an English writer as an American author. I am not Catholic, so quoting me as a "Catholic" is beyond ridicule. It's actually misleading.

Your call.

89 posted on 10/31/2010 10:02:10 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50; Natural Law; Gamecock; Petronski; Cronos
I just wonder if posting FReeper's quotes on someone Homepage is within Religion Forum rules.

You might try asking Petronski, Cronos, and Hacksaw while you're at it. You could also try asking sandyeggo and TaxachusettsMan, if you how to contact them in FReeper Purgatory :)

90 posted on 10/31/2010 10:05:21 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock
You seem to be missing the point, too, AM (scary). I don't mind that he quoted me. In fact, I reiterated that I was actually delighted he did.

My objection was that he has me listed as a "Roman Catholic" poster, which is a lie.

But, if that's allowed, then I can quote you or him on my homepage under the rubric "famous FR Atheist quotes," or as 0bmama supporters, right?

Is that perspicuous enough for you?

91 posted on 10/31/2010 10:13:40 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Alex Murphy
"You might try asking Petronski, Cronos, and Hacksaw while you're at it."

Why on earth would you think I would possibly know or care what you have on your homepage? Your postings are bad enough, I have no desire to find the motherlode.

92 posted on 10/31/2010 10:20:31 PM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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To: kosta50; Natural Law; Notwithstanding; Tribemike1; RnMomof7
I'm sure Natural Law is delighted that you are sticking up for him. My point is that the thread was started to not disparage any ones' religion but was speaking of a praise song that is sung in church. Notwithstanding drew first blood in posts 4&5 and Tribemike1 chimed in at #6 then Mr. Natural Law with his thoughts at post 8. Each one was critical of Luther, and the Reformation.

NL has taken many non-Catholic Christians to task for what he calls "trolling" on the Catholic threads in order to lie about their doctrines and disparage Catholics. He calls them haters and bigots, now they're "Pauliwogs" who bastardize the Bible. It seemed hypocritical for him to carry on so much about his beliefs being offended by posters who lie in wait with their evil motives and pounce at every opportunity they have. If such behavior is so repulsive to him, that he would turn around and do exactly the same thing is questionable.

I know the thread is open, but if you would look back on the path the posts took in an honest way, you would see that those who screamed and complain the loudest are guilty of exactly the same offense. NL response was that he was answering the lies about the teaching of Rome, and up to that point nothing of the kind had even occurred.

93 posted on 10/31/2010 10:50:22 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Notwithstanding

rampant divorce - and annulment$ for a price. Kennedy, Cuomo, etc.

rampant homosexualism - lawsuits galore against Rome.

rampant promiscuity - it got Madonna started.

RAMPANT LIBERALISM - 54% of Catholics voted for Pro Abortion Barry.


94 posted on 10/31/2010 11:10:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: goat granny; Gamecock
As I said, it was a sincere question. But your only point was that no one argued with him about it....so I still have no reason as to why he called himself that...

Paul repeatedly said in the beginning of each of his epistles that he was an apostle of Jesus Christ. Rom. 1:1;11:13; 1 Cor. 1:1;9:2;15:9; 2Cor. 1:1;12:12; Gal. 1:1;2:8; Eph. 1:1; Col. 1:1; 1Tim. 1:1;2:7; 2Tim.1:1;1:11; Titus 1:1. Even Peter speaks of the Lord speaking through prophets and the apostles in 2 Peter 3:2 and Paul specifically in 2 Peter 3:15. Paul called himself that because Christ appeared to him and comission him to be one and to take the gospel to the gentiles.

95 posted on 10/31/2010 11:19:07 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums; Natural Law; Notwithstanding; Tribemike1; RnMomof7
I am not sticking up for Natural Law, but for a principle. Had the tables been reversed, I would have said the same thing: in an open forum some people choose to post negative comments with respect to a specific denomination or religion because it's allowed.

It makes no difference to me if it's Natural Law criticizing the Reformed or the Reformed attacking Rome, the principle of an open forum applies, period.

96 posted on 10/31/2010 11:28:12 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Natural Law; Alex Murphy
Why on earth would you think I would possibly know or care what you have on your homepage

Here is an interesting thing: Alex Murphy makes and receives posts. But if you go to his Homepage it says his account has "banned or suspended."

97 posted on 10/31/2010 11:33:53 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50; Natural Law
MY post was originally posted to Natural law who has been vociferous in the last few months complaining about all the anti-Catholics who he says troll the RF and lie in wait to attack any and every thread about Catholicism. The principle of the open forum debate has been denigrated and loudly complained about by many Catholics, most loudly by him. I felt it was a good opportunity for him to see that he was guilty of the very things he so quickly condemns in others.

It did nothing to stop it, but I didn't really expect it to. I don't care for rank hypocrisy and I hope you aren't a fan either.

98 posted on 10/31/2010 11:39:51 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
It did nothing to stop it, but I didn't really expect it to. I don't care for rank hypocrisy and I hope you aren't a fan either

No I am not. But I also don't engage in activities if I don't expect any results.

99 posted on 10/31/2010 11:55:34 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: boatbums
You may very well be right, but can I have chapter and verse where Jesus calls him an apostle, thats what I want to find....I know the 12 were to go only to the Jews and Paul to the gentiles, but I am stuck on Paul giving himself the name apostle....If you give me chapter and verse, I will be satisfied, and have a biblical answer to my question, there were 12 tribes in Israel and 12 apostle's, Paul makes it 13 and I don't think that is in scripture, I may be wrong, but want to find out....thanks

And quoting Paul is not valid for me to find where God said Saul, who he called by a new name Paul, but I want where in scripture He calls him an apostle..

100 posted on 11/01/2010 1:19:59 AM PDT by goat granny
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