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In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: reformation; savedbygrace
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To: Natural Law
"To hell with them.".....That is purely a function of your doing

'The other guys fault' syndrome - Obama trait, no accountability.
461 posted on 11/03/2010 6:07:52 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; annalex; Religion Moderator
"Those are the same kind of lies Russia used to tell its citizens"

Just how thin do you think you can slice the baloney before you actually cross the line and call annalex a liar? It appears to me that your finessing of the rules came up a bit short. You owe annalex an apology.

462 posted on 11/03/2010 6:08:40 PM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Alex Murphy; RnMomof7; Quix; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; Gamecock; ...
I'm pinging a few Christians

So they, too, can learn a bit about history.

463 posted on 11/03/2010 6:08:55 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: boatbums; Dr. Eckleburg

The hardest penalty the Inquisition had was excommunication, and that was applied rarely.


464 posted on 11/03/2010 6:10:32 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: presently no screen name
"Do you think that is possible?"

Do I think they are trying to deceive God? - absolutely yes. Do I think they will be successful? - absolutely not.

465 posted on 11/03/2010 6:10:41 PM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7
However, the Church always respected the civil law of the land, which indeed treated apostasy harshly.

What a cop out.

They could have set the standard and refused to participate; taken the moral high ground and shown that mercy triumphs over judgment.

What with the power the Catholic church had in those days, it could have put its foot down about treating others in such an unChristlike manner and that would have put an end to that *law of the land* pretty quickly.

They're complicit.

466 posted on 11/03/2010 6:21:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7
it could have put its foot down about treating others in such an unChristlike manner and that would have put an end to that *law of the land* pretty quickly.

Yes, that would be a fair criticism. The Church exists in time and is as a political entity, is not infallible. However, that does not diminish my desire to see a robust inquisition instituted today.

467 posted on 11/03/2010 6:27:28 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; boatbums; Dr. Eckleburg
The hardest penalty the Inquisition had was excommunication, and that was applied rarely.

But torturing them and burning them at the stake, well, it was all in a day's work.

I guess they just figured they were starting the person's stay in purgatory a little early, eh? Just helping them along.

468 posted on 11/03/2010 6:27:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; boatbums; Dr. Eckleburg

Torture was considered a valid interrogation technique, but the state did the executions, not the Church.


469 posted on 11/03/2010 6:29:08 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Natural Law; Quix; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg

Do you consider pinging the mods to complain about other’s posts equivalent to posting with one’s finger on the abuse button? Because it sure doesn’t look any different to me.

If not, why not?


470 posted on 11/03/2010 6:30:50 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
What with the power the Catholic church had in those days, it could have put its foot down about treating others in such an unChristlike manner and that would have put an end to that *law of the land* pretty quickly.

True...sorta like "we the People" just kicked butt on Bo's law of the land.

471 posted on 11/03/2010 6:32:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: annalex
The Church exists in time and is as a political entity, is not infallible.

It does.

It shouldn't.

That's not how it's portrayed to the rest of the world.

472 posted on 11/03/2010 6:32:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex
The Church exists in time and is as a political entity, is not infallible.

The church has no business being or becoming a political entity. That is NOT the mission of the church or Christ.

473 posted on 11/03/2010 6:33:55 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex
Torture was considered a valid interrogation technique, but the state did the executions, not the Church.

Oh for crying out loud analex....the church was a political machine in garb then...just as some churches are today..."having only an appearance of Christianity"...THAT is what the church was then. Trying to protect the church then from what they indeed do would be like the Pope saying the homosexual, pedophile issues were done by someone else..not those in leadership.

474 posted on 11/03/2010 6:39:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: annalex

Interrogation to find out what exactly?

The Jews handed Jesus over to the Romans for execution and yet the blood remained on their hands. Just because they got someone else to do their dirty work doesn’t mean they weren’t responsible.

And besides, with the level of medical care available in those days, just how many of the gruesomely tortured victims would have survived anyway? The Church essentially killed them with the torture. No way they were going to survive what was done to most of them.

Matter of fact, I doubt the survival rate would be spectacular even today. There’s only so much damage that can be done to a human body before it’s injured beyond repair.

Likely all the execution did was cut short the suffering a very slow and agonizing death by replacing it with a quicker and agonizing death.


475 posted on 11/03/2010 6:39:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex; RnMomof7; metmom
The Church exists in time and is as a political entity, is not infallible.

That completely contradicts what we've heard from FRoman Catholics for years.

Even you, annalex, have insisted the Roman Catholic church is infallible.

Thanks for your candor. The RCC is not fallible. It makes mistakes. It errs. It gets things wrong. It teaches incorrectly.

476 posted on 11/03/2010 6:46:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law

You show less evidence of understanding the rules than annalex.


477 posted on 11/03/2010 6:49:44 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: boatbums
"The Holy Inquisition is about spiritual purification."

Wow...that's exactly like what the Islamic Jihadists say.

Astounding, isn't it, the similarities? Blood lust all around.

And they're proud of it.

478 posted on 11/03/2010 6:52:51 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom
The church has no business being or becoming a political entity.

Like, the Church should not teach anything on say, abortion?

It is part of the mission of the Church to transform the world.

479 posted on 11/03/2010 7:23:02 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: caww

The Church has a duty to determine what is heresy. This is not a political act, to find out what the person’s beliefs are, if he is going to profess them publicly.

When that is not observed, we have “Catholic” institutions like Notre Dame promoting Obama drones.


480 posted on 11/03/2010 7:25:29 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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