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To: NYer

Thank you for the additional information. Although, I agree with the premise of the story and believe all Christian based Churches should have never wavered from the primary precepts making America great, have devolved into pop-culture corporate systems.

“No Catholic will ever defend the indefensible. Most of the sex abuse that took place dates back to the …”

I am not sure this is exactly true…the Church(s) and its members went to great length to hide, not take responsibility and conspired to avoid prosecution. Second, when exposed to the open light of public awareness four actions became apparent, 1. Everyone scattered like cockroaches; 2. The Church and its leaders which were proven to be involved were all at the highest levels; 3. Important resources, teachings and social goodwill were squandered; 4. Money was the deal with the Devil not to prosecute the multiple offenders. All the while Rome and many sects lived well upon their activities.

The many post processes, are nice for pop-culture consumption and policing; still does not eliminate the problem throughout American society, for no church dares to speak against the teachings of the state at a minimum. Nonetheless the initial problem should have never happened, let-alone gotten to the level it did in any of the supposedly Christian organizations. And now after 30, 40, 50 years we can see how the primary and social teachings have corrupted society publics at every strata.


11 posted on 10/16/2010 8:09:02 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about their misdirection!)
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To: ntmxx

Your numbered list of points is not documentation, evidence, or proof. It is a list of your personal opinions and it is not convincing.

If I thought that you were genuinely interested in having a dialog with Catholics about the clerical sex abuse scandal and its effect on the Church’s moral authority, then I might take you seriously. But it is clear from the provocative, insulting comments that you are making about the Church and the dismissive way that you are responding to Catholics who are trying to engage in a rational debate with you, that you aren’t interested in this. You just want a forum for bashing the Church and not just the Church as an institution but the members of the Church since you called Catholics “cockroaches.” And don’t try to deny this when in the sentence before that you said “. . . the Church(s) [sic] and its members went to great length to hide, not take responsibility, and avoid prosecution.”

Please take your anti-Catholic bigotry elsewhere.


13 posted on 10/17/2010 5:44:05 PM PDT by steadfastconservative
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