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To: CynicalBear
Second, Moses died prior to Jesus death and resurrection. Everything changed after the resurrection.

True. And Jesus spoke to Moses before the resurrection.

It would be absurd to accuse Jesus of practicing necromancy when He spoke with Moses. Yet the article at the beginning of this thread treats necromancy as communication with the dead and hints that Mormons practice necromancy. As I pointed out in Post 8, neither is correct.

Jesus also went down to Sheol after His death on the cross. Would you suggest that is also something available to us mere humans?

Since Sheol means "the grave" or "realm of the dead" (and is so translated in the NIV), I would say that every human who dies will go down to Sheol. (That includes almost all of us.) Thankfully, because of Jesus Christ, all will come out of the grave again.

35 posted on 10/14/2010 12:08:43 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile

>>I would say that every human who dies will go down to Sheol.<<

You are right to a point. Sheol had several layers and the words translated had separate meanings. There was the physical grave which the early Israelites misinterpreted as the only place. The other words which were translated Sheol and Hades meant a place or realm for the spirit prior to Jesus resurrection. The spirits of faithful Israelites were in a “holding place” which have become known as Sheol, Hades, or purgatory. That place was abolished upon Jesus resurrection.


39 posted on 10/14/2010 12:36:42 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Logophile
Since Sheol means "the grave" or "realm of the dead" (and is so translated in the NIV), I would say that every human who dies will go down to Sheol. (That includes almost all of us.)Thankfully, because of Jesus Christ, all will come out of the grave again.

Ohh...just who among us will be exempt from "going down to Sheol"? This, perhaps?

To have one's calling and election made sure is to be sealed up unto eternal life; it is to have the unconditional guarantee of exaltation in the highest heaven of the celestial world; it is to receive the assurance of godhood; it is, in effect, to have the day of judgment advanced, so that an inheritance of all the glory and honor of the Father's kingdom is assured prior to the day when the faithful actually enter into the divine presence to sit with Christ in his throne, even as he is "set down" with his "Father in his throne." (Rev 3:21.)

 

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48 posted on 10/14/2010 3:18:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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