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To: grey_whiskers
What *IS* the connection between Bonnke and Creme?

Frankly, I do not know. I do know this false spirit has spread throughout the Pentecostal movement, and part of its fruit is the attack on the Queen of Heaven foretold in Revelations 12. It might have started with Bonnke (that's my intuition) or it might have started with some of the former New Age practitioners who are now Pentecostal leaders.

Or it may have been the overwhelming urge of certain Pentecostal leaders to witness and impart ever greater (and thus more financially lucrative) manifestations of "the spirit."

Those who serve Mammom, not God, in the Prosperity Gospel wing of Pentecostalism are not able to discern between real gifts of the Holy Spirit and false spirits such as this Kundalini spirit.

In the end, it was this obsession with "Prosperity" which caused certain Pentecostal leaders to lower their guard and permit this Kundalini infestation of their movement.

56 posted on 10/11/2010 8:36:24 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Those who serve Mammom, not God, in the Prosperity Gospel wing of Pentecostalism are not able to discern between real gifts of the Holy Spirit and false spirits such as this Kundalini spirit. In the end, it was this obsession with "Prosperity" which caused certain Pentecostal leaders to lower their guard and permit this Kundalini infestation of their movement.

The Goddess Chiti taught by Baba Muktananda is not a demon (as incorrectly cited above). She is, rather, Chitishakti Kundalini, which is a name for nothing less than the Holy Spirit itself, which in the East is recognized as the Feminine Power of God. And thoughout history, this Holy Spirit is the Purifier that has been described by saints of all times and places. For example, three seconds on Google gives this excellent example of the (non-demonic) purification process:

Teresa of Ávila (from Wikipedia):

Around 1556, various friends suggested that her newfound knowledge was diabolical, not divine. She began to inflict various tortures and mortifications of the flesh upon herself. But her confessor, the Jesuit Saint Francis Borgia, reassured her of the divine inspiration of her thoughts. On St. Peter's Day in 1559, Teresa became firmly convinced that Jesus Christ presented himself to her in bodily form, though invisible. These visions of Jesus Christ lasted almost uninterrupted for more than two years. In another vision, a seraph drove the fiery point of a golden lance repeatedly through her heart, causing an ineffable spiritual-bodily pain.

“I saw in his hand a long spear of gold, and at the iron's point there seemed to be a little fire. He appeared to me to be thrusting it at times into my heart, and to pierce my very entrails; when he drew it out, he seemed to draw them out also, and to leave me all on fire with a great love of God. The pain was so great, that it made me moan; and yet so surpassing was the sweetness of this excessive pain, that I could not wish to be rid of it...”

This vision was the inspiration for one of Bernini's most famous works, the Ecstasy of St Teresa at Santa Maria della Vittoria in Rome. The memory of this episode served as an inspiration throughout the rest of her life, and motivated her life-long imitation of the life and suffering of Jesus, epitomized in the motto usually associated with her: "Lord, either let me suffer or let me die."

Note that I am not saying that demons are unreal. But discrimination and humility is required for deep understanding of spiritual purification, and God is certainly not limited by the inabilities of the human mind to fathom divine process.

59 posted on 10/11/2010 8:54:36 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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