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To: Sontagged
"I just don’t understand the Mary worship. Mary wouldn’t either."

Yes! That is the truth. Thats why real Catholics honor Mary. They do not worship Mary. Which some Christians do not want to understand. If they wanted to truly understand period. We believe God is her savior. Just that she was taken out of sin to carry as a woman the baby( Savior Jesus). Why because he is that Holy. Do you need urls. I will be happy to post.

30 posted on 10/11/2010 7:23:11 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: johngrace

To pray to Mary is not to honor her, but to dishonor her.

Mary is not the “Queen of Heaven,” Ishtar is.


37 posted on 10/11/2010 7:35:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: johngrace

There is no place in the Word of God (which is Jesus by the way, He is the Word made flesh) that says that Mary was without sin in order to carry Jesus. She of course conceived immaculately, and also, this was not a situation where God would allow Mary or Joseph to “give even the appearance of evil” because under Hebrew law, a betrothed couple were allowed conjugal rights before the actual ceremony. So even her conception was a holy thing that would not have drawn attention to it when she became with child — except Joseph knew he had not lain with her. In other words, it was all kosher and under Jewish law that she and Joseph could sleep together as betrothed.

That said, this still speaks nothing of Mary’s sin or sinless state. It is ridiculous to even think that anyone but Jesus was without sin. I have no idea where this legend arose in Catholicism but it breeds a Mary veneration that is not cool with the Lord God.

Yes she was blessed among women, and yes her virgin birth of Christ was prophesied over the centuries, even to Genesis, but this is not because she was sinless. It is because it was God’s will that His son was born through that Davidic bloodline, by a virgin.

Great. Now to the daily task of our carrying own personal cross, dying to self, and following Him... which has nothing to do with Mary. She needed the gift of the Holy Spirit to fall on her at Pentecost just as it did the other disciples... nothing special here to see folks.


127 posted on 10/12/2010 5:08:07 AM PDT by Sontagged ( Faith without works is dead. This also means incessant prayer without attendant works is dead.)
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