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To: presently no screen name; Dr. Brian Kopp

“He taught me True Discernment”

I think you let the cat out, one isn’t ‘taught’ discernment.”

He certainly does in ever Bible I’ve ever read:

New International Version (©1984)
But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
New Living Translation (©2007)
But when the Father sends the Advocate as my representative—that is, the Holy Spirit—he will teach you everything and will remind you of everything I have told you.

English Standard Version (©2001)
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

International Standard Version (©2008)
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything that I have told you.

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
However, the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything. He will remind you of everything that I have ever told you.

King James Bible
But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

American King James Version
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said to you.


124 posted on 10/12/2010 5:01:50 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR
The most abused passage in all the Bible. The historical setting is the upper room discourse, only Jesus and the apostles were in attendence. His promise in this passage is twofold:

1. guide you into all truth
2. bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you

Oh, wait a minute ... bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you? That would be a major issue ... I personally was not there in the upper room ... I wasnt around to hear the words of Jesus when he gave them to the apostles. If I wasnt there to hear the words, how could He bring them to MY remembrance. Further, if the second doesnt apply to me neither does the first.

The simple historical fact is that NONE of us were there in the upper room, none of us were there during the time of Christ on earth. This cannot be a promise to us, nor can we Biblically claim it is a promise to us ... yet this is the most used passage in every denomination to justify their own interpretation of the Bible. "The Holy Spirit taught me this."

Our application of this passage today is to believe the result of their "guidance into truth" and "bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you" ... namely ... the New Testament.

The ability to discern comes from a careful reading and study of the doctrines taught in the New Testament, which were written by the apostles (they were guided into this truth) ... some of which were the actual words of Christ (such as in the gospels).

139 posted on 10/12/2010 8:22:47 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: OpusatFR; Dr. Brian Kopp; Quix
He taught me True Discernment......He certainly does in ever Bible I’ve ever read:

Thanks for proving my point - one NEEDS the Holy Spirit when reading/studying the Bible! And you read a Scripture and came away thinking you know something.

The HOLY SPIRIT is THE TEACHER of The Word - and the RCC pawns have the RCC teach them. And their lack of knowledge of The Word is shown post after post.

It's entertaining to watch Catholics post doctrines/traditions - then they swing over to the Word when they 'think' it fits. They have NO Spiritual discernment - THEIR organization tells them what to believe - and their catechism tells them so.

You can't have two masters!

Discernment is not taught - it is a GIFT.

A.W. Tozer: "Among the gifts of the Spirit scarcely one is of greater practical usefulness than the gift of discernment. This gift should be highly valued and frankly sought as being almost indispensable in these critical times. This gift will enable us to distinguish the chaff from the wheat and to divide the manifestations of the flesh from the operations of the Spirit."

...divide the manifestations of the flesh - RCC man made teachings.

...the operations of the Spirit - The Spirit of God teaching HIS WORD.
146 posted on 10/12/2010 10:33:12 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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