maladjusted childhood storme? Or can't mormons answer back.
Silence on the first 8 points, tacit evidence of no defense on the part of mormons.
Not a practice of the early church... you can't be serious...
While teaching about the resurrection of the dead, Paul uses the doctrine of baptism for the dead to stress his point.
1 Cor 29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
shooting spitballs stormy and missing. Paul uses an exclusive term "THEY" here, not an inclusive term like 'us', 'we' etc as he does throughtout the whole chapter. No stormy, Paul was not talking about a Christian practice, but a pagan practice (they). Further, in no place in the bom is found necrodunking as well. Infact, it teaches against such a practice (2 Nephi 9:15 and Alma 34:35-36).
This is the part where evangelicals mingle their own philosophies with a little scripture and hope no one calls them on it.
Mormons hope their 'works' are adequate to earn their salvation. The bible also states:
Isa 64:6 KJV - But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Just how bad is it for those who say works will get us into heaven. time for a little hebrew lesson stormy - the phrase above "filthy rags" is more literally translated "menstrual cloths", under mosaic law the ultimate uncleanliness one could have. What does the Bible say -
Act 15:11 KJV - But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Eph 2:5 KJV - Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:8 KJV - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Rom 3:20 KJV - Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:27 KJV - Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 3:28 KJV - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom 11:6 KJV - And if by grace, then [is it] no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if [it be] of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
John clearly states that every man will be judged by their works. You can't get around that.
I fail to see the word "all" in those passages from Revelation. But that is ok stormy, your view of the scriptures are polarized by the peep stone of smith. Were you to read the passage you would have first encountered this passage:
Rev 20:6 KJV - Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
What do verses 12 & 13 discuss - the second resurrection. Hmmmmmm, where do they come from - death and hell - commonly associated with those who are NOT saved but relied on their works. Well those works are tried and found lacking.
Well stormy, how goes your efforts to earn your salvation? Are you completely (100%) living up to your covenants, following to the letter all the laws, works and ordinances necessary to earn your salvation? If not, why not? Why are you procrastinating?
[Godzilla hisses]
shooting spitballs stormy and missing. Paul uses an exclusive term "THEY" here, not an inclusive term like 'us', 'we' etc as
[Stourme amusedly states]
You want to know the real difference between my LDS doctrine and your evangelical doctrine is? I don't have to quibble over pronouns to justify it. I don't have ignore 95% of the Bible so I can sleep at night.
1. We are indeed saved by the grace of Jesus Christ. There is no other way into heaven.
2. Jesus will decide who gets His grace by judging our works.
It's a very simple equation. The books of the Bible explain this. The prophets explain it. Evangelicals ignore it.
Jesus said: Matthew 7: 20-21 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. By judging their works you shall know them. And only those that *do* the will of my Father shall enter the kingdom of heaven. This is instruction given by Jesus Himself. Latter-day Saints teach Jesus' doctrine. Evangelicals ignore it. James said: James 2: 17-20 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Faith alone has no meaning to God. If you don't have the works to go along with the faith you claim to have...in God's eyes you have no faith. It's about the easiest doctrine explained in the Bible. Latter-day Saints teach the same doctrine that James taught. Evangelicals ignore it. This is one of the many reasons I left evangelical christianity. If God truly was working through evangelicals He would be giving them greater insight into His kingdom and greater insight into His truths. But they have nothing. It's a hollow belief system that denies the scriptures. If it wasn't, you wouldn't see them quibbling over pronouns, you'd seen them adopting truth. -Stourme