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The Catholic Tea Kettle Continues to Boil
Inside Catholic ^ | 9/23/2010 | Deal Hudson

Posted on 09/27/2010 6:17:29 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: netmilsmom

WELL PUT.


21 posted on 09/27/2010 7:54:44 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: markomalley

May the Roman Catholic tea kettle boil away the lot of the clueless traitorous Godless idiots.


22 posted on 09/27/2010 7:59:17 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Alex Murphy
"In November 2008, FReeper all the best posted his take on where the Catholic church has gone wrong in guiding American voters. I think he absolutely nailed it: 'Show me just one Catholic bishop who will speak up against coveting your neighbors’ goods. That is why Catholics ignored the Bishops on abortion. They know abortion is wrong but overlooked the Dems on that point because those same politicians pandered to their covetousness. Same for protestants and evangelical pastors, leaders and activists. American politics and government at all levels is driven by government-mediated coveting. Until the Church takes a stand against this we can expect to sink deeper and deeper into socialism and, oh yeah, abortion.'"

...Most every destructive policy put into place by the left can be traced to some Christian virtue gone mad ­ i.e., feed the hungry, so steal from “the rich” and call it “giving,” or defending abortion on the basis of the sanctity of “liberty,” or encouraging every manner of deviancy under the guise of “tolerance.” They have the bizarre idea that it is “easier to forgive sins” if “there are no sins to forgive” ­ except for the sin of believing they exist. ...

23 posted on 09/27/2010 8:06:18 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The 'RAT Party - Home of our most envious, hypocritical, and greedy citizens.)
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To: Kolokotronis
Is the orthodoxy of one’s Roman Catholicism now measured in this country by where one falls on a political spectrum?

No, but a certain political party to which most cradle Catholics have traditionally belonged (as a convert, I don't have this cultural baggage) has become a fanatical proponent of the culture of death, including promotion of abortion and homosexual activity, so I think that it is incumbent upon the hierarchy to speak up for Catholic moral principles, whether fashionable or not. It is not a matter of partisanship, but standing up for what is right against moral heresy. They could criticize similar tendencies on the other political side as well if they want to appear "balanced". This is the era of moral heresy above all else.

24 posted on 09/27/2010 9:33:19 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: netmilsmom

Parishes HAVE to use the corrected translation. It will be in the books and it is the order of Pope Benedict XVI.

I would say that as of Advent, 2011, your parish is not using the corrected translations — contact your Bishop and the Vatican ASAP!


25 posted on 09/27/2010 3:55:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: frogjerk

**I know priests and deacons in my parish are actively going for training.**

In my Archdiocese too!


26 posted on 09/27/2010 3:57:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy

I guess you missed all my lists of Bishops who spoke out against the election of Obortion O, against Obama speaking at Notre Dame, against......and against!

Bet you don’t want to look at those, do you? LOL!


27 posted on 09/27/2010 4:01:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy

I guess you missed all my lists of Bishops who spoke out against the election of Obortion O, against Obama speaking at Notre Dame, against the healthcare that has been pushed into our lives and against and against!

Bet you don’t want to look at those, do you? LOL!


28 posted on 09/27/2010 4:02:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

>>Parishes HAVE to use the corrected translation. It will be in the books and it is the order of Pope Benedict XVI.<<

And if they don’t, then what?

Contacting the Bishop who is against this will do nothing. How much do you think the Bishop in Erie will care at all? Complaints in the circular file.

And the Vatican will be overrun, but the Bishops are not corrected until their evaluations, so basically, it can be years.


29 posted on 09/27/2010 4:21:26 PM PDT by netmilsmom ("Happiness is a choice"-Fr. Ben Ludtke. Pray for healing of his Brain Tumor, pls.)
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To: netmilsmom

The Bishops and priests are being trained in this as we speak. One is scheduled this week in Seattle.

They won’t have an excuse.


30 posted on 09/27/2010 6:55:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

>>They won’t have an excuse.<<

Or what?

The Bishop sits on it until his review with the Vatican. It can be five years. Or they can skate around it and just ignore the parishes that are still using their “own interpretation” of the Missal.

You know, the inclusive language and using Christ as a surname. They bend and add to the GIRM right now and no one does anything. I nearly fell over when I heard, “Jesus, Morning Star, you take away the sins of the world...” spewing from the soloist at one parish! They do what they want.

I would love to think that I can travel in the Saginaw Diocese and see a change. I will be happily surprised if I do, but it’s much more likely that the Bishop will not be booting the “liturgical committees” any time soon. We’ll still have solos by the cantor for every response, gladhanding at the beginning of Mass, daisy chains and orans for the Our Father AND ignoring the new GIRM. It only makes sense that if they can add in a “modified Orans” that looks like a gunman walked into the middle of the congregation and yelled “Stick um up”, then they can bend the rules and delay forever. Remember the fight with allowing the TLM? How many Bishops fought tooth and nail? In some Diocese, it’s only there because it’s hidden as far away and as inconvenient as possible.

My parish will use it, many will. But the question is, what if they don’t? What will REALLY happen? Because some of us have been begging the Vatican to do something with the innovations and additions that are already there and nothing is done.


31 posted on 09/28/2010 8:31:34 AM PDT by netmilsmom ("Happiness is a choice"-Fr. Ben Ludtke. Pray for healing of his Brain Tumor, pls.)
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