Ex-LDS seminary principal gets 5-to-life for abusing student

Salt Lake Tribune ^ | Sept. 20, 2010 | Donald W. Meyers

[Paragon Defender]

As usual you misrepresent what is said. Typical and old.

[Osage Orange]

Maybe I can’t say it here but I know exactly what you are and what you are doing here

And be sure....many Christians here know exactly what you are doing...and what you are.

[Elsie]

The prophets and apostles of old will assist Christ in the judging process of man (including Joseph Smith).

Oh?

Just HOW will THIS work?

[Paragon Defender]

Plain as day and easy to find if you actually look.

There you go again. UNABLE to back up your accusations.

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What on earth are you talking about? And you people whine about me giving you links instead of looking things up for you. I gave you a link directly to what you asked and you still make a nonsensical reply.

[Osage Orange]

The prophets and apostles of old will assist Christ in the judging process of man (including Joseph Smith

LOL!! WOW!! Are you kidding me?

BTW, J. Smith was judged long ago....and I'd hazard a guess, I know where he is.

Keep posting....you are educating the masses.

[Elsie]

They seem to come to grips with the fact that people who reveal lds misrepresent the lds’s own words and ignore the answers revealed to them on the topic over and over again.

Fixed?

Hardly!

We post MORMONism own words and they SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES!

You, OTOH, are too lazy to post what you consider the 'truth' to be, and can only say...

"It's over there if you wish to find it."

[Osage Orange]

I think you meant swamp fever....not fever swamp.

FWIW-

[Elsie]

Post some things and misrepresent them in a variety of ways.

Put up or shut up.

[Osage Orange]

Will you answer the question?

[Paragon Defender]

PD; you used to be kind of a mild mannered fellow.

What has happened?

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I think some of the nasty attitude and behavior of the anti-Mormons that live on this board has rubbed off on me.

You are right I am getting annoyed. I know better than to argue with anti’s because it is pointless. They will always come back with another propaganda piece or strawman argument. The constant misrepresentations won’t stop. It is the way of things.

I might stop wasting my time conversing with the blind and simply give my links to the truth to whoever wants to see it.

Thanks for pointing out my attitude change.

[svcw]

You said: The prophets and apostles of old will assist Christ in the judging process of man (including Joseph Smith).

I said: Wait you already answered. Jesus Christ is not sufficient and needs help from lds leaders.

What you said indeed shows that you (lds) do not believe Jesus Christ is sufficient.

[Elsie]

As usual you misrepresent what is said.

The jury keeps wondering, "Huh? Where?"

[svcw]

I find that amusing. I did go to your links and posted directly from them and you still imply I am spinning.
Keep posting the links, it supplies endless evidence of the fallacy of lds.

[Elsie]

I gave you a link directly to what you asked and you still make a nonsensical reply.

And we LOOKED in your links and guess what? It is NOT there!

Now; you can claim we are wrong, claim we are LYING, claim we are misrepresenting stuff, but until you actually produce something to back up your ACCUSATIONS, the jury will side with us.

[Elsie]

I gave you a link directly to what you asked and you still make a nonsensical reply.

It appears to me that you've been TAUGHT that the stuff is there; but you've not actually SEEN it yourself.

You may want to take a little time away from FR and actually READ what you are encouraging others to read.

[Paragon Defender]

Wait you already answered. Jesus Christ is not sufficient and needs help from lds leaders.

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This is not what was said and is a perfect example of the dishonest tactics used by the anti-Mormon crowd.

I am done arguing with a wall.

Undecided readers,

As an ex Mormon-basher, I invite everyone to read all of the multitude of Anti-Mormon attack threads and/or comments on this board and then do some research on your own from more than one side of the “issues”.

Is what all these Mormon attack squad people parrot day in and and day out on these boards true? Don’t take their word for it. Find out for yourself. Put forth some effort. You do want the truth right? Prove it.

Read both sides. Talk to both sides. Not just mine. Not just theirs. Make up your own mind.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. The vast majority of the issues brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ I have found but here’s more.

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

[Elsie]

The constant misrepresentations won’t stop.

You REALLY need to SHOW these 'misrepresentations'...

[svcw]

You said: The prophets and apostles of old will assist Christ in the judging process of man (including Joseph Smith).

Explain to me how what you said is not demonstrating that the lds jesus is not sufficient.

[Elsie]

Thanks for pointing out my attitude change.

You are welcome.

Sometimes those that appear to be against us are more aware of changes than we or even our friends are.

Even though we disagree about our religion; we still need the bond of human fellowship.

[svcw]

See my post 178, even when you quote them (lds) directly they (lds) say you are misrepresenting what they (lds) just posted. sigh