I've read through the entire thread and it's just mind numbing to see the same Genevans saying the same things over and over again without variation, never correcting or adjusting their words. May as well call it what it is and have done with it, it's hate speech. Whether by accident or design it's degrading and offensive.
It's an orgiastic feast of ignorance.
When I watch secularists carry on like that it's depressing to know that creatures of God have sunk so low, to see it in people who profess Christ in one breath and total ignorance in the next it's just horrifying.
On the other hand, I'm reminded of a scene in the Madness of King George:
[Margaret Nicholson has attempted unsuccessfully to kill the King]
Margaret Nicholson: I have a property due to me from the Crown of England! Give me my property or the land will be drenched in blood!
George III: Will it, madam?
[he picks up the extremely small knife]
George III: Well, not with this it won't. It's a fruit knife, wouldn't cut a cabbage.
[pause]
Margaret Nicholson: [quietly] Oh.
Somehow they need to understand that all they're armed with is a fruit knife and they're stabbing themselves with it.
And they won't. To them this is not about historical or theological truth. They have no knowledge and little concern for the actual truth. To them this is an exercise in Catholic baiting. They have developed a list of hot button items sure to rile Catholics and they go to their list frequently, recycling the same arguments.
Why? I call it Crosier Envy. They are jealous of the prestige and Godliness of the Church, but are unwilling to forgo their beliefs in their status as elect and submit themselves to God for judgment. They are resentful for Catholics not accepting them as special as they have convinced themselves they are.
We cannot change them, except by prayers to God, Mary and the saints to change their hearts.