Posted on 09/18/2010 8:26:32 PM PDT by markomalley
One of the key myths of the American Catholic imagination is this: After 200 years of fighting against public prejudice, Catholics finally broke through into Americas mainstream with the 1960 election of John F. Kennedy as president. Its a happy thought, and not without grounding. Next to Americas broad collection of evangelical churches, baptized Catholics now make up the biggest religious community in the United States. They serve in large numbers in Congress. They have a majority on the Supreme Court. They play commanding roles in the professions and in business leadership. Theyve climbed, at long last, the Mt. Zion of social acceptance.
So goes the tale. What this has actually meant for the direction of American life, however, is another matter. Catholic statistics once seemed impressive. They filled many of us with tribal pride. But they didnt stop a new and quite alien national landscape, a next America, from emerging right under our noses.
While both Barna Group and Pew Research Center data show that Americans remain a broadly Christian people, old religious loyalties are steadily softening. Overall, the number of Americans claiming no religious affiliation, about 16 percent, has doubled since 1990. One quarter of Americans aged 18-29 have no affiliation with any particular religion, and as the Barna Group noted in 2007, they exhibit a greater degree of criticism toward Christianity than did previous generations when they were at the same stage of life. In fact, in just a decade . . . the Christian image [has] shifted substantially downward, fueled in part by a growing sense of disengagement and disillusionment among young people.
Catholic losses have been masked by Latino immigration. But while 31 percent of Americans say they were raised in the Catholic faith, fewer than 24 percent of Americans now describe themselves as Catholic.
These facts have weight because, traditionally, religious faith has provided the basis for Americans moral consensus. And that moral consensus has informed American social policy and law. What people believeor dont believeabout God, helps to shape what they believe about men and women. And what they believe about men and women creates the framework for a nations public life.
Or to put it more plainly: In the coming decades Catholics will likely find it harder, not easier, to influence the course of American culture, or even to live their faith authentically. And the big difference between the next America and the old one will be that plenty of other committed religious believers may find themselves in the same unpleasant jam as their Catholic cousins.
At first hearing, this scenario might sound implausible; and for good reason. The roots of the American experience are deeply Protestant. They go back a very long way, to well before the nations founding. Whatever one thinks of the early Puritan colonistsand Catholics have few reasons to remember them fondlyno reader can study Gov. John Winthrops great 1630 homily before embarking for New England without being moved by the zeal and candor of the faith that produced it. In A model of Christian charity, he told his fellow colonists:
We are a company professing ourselves fellow members of Christ . . . That which the most in their churches maintain as truth in profession only, we must bring into familiar and constant practice; as in this duty of love, we must love brotherly without dissimulation, we must love one another with pure heart fervently. We must bear one anothers burdens. We must look not only on our own things, but also on the things of our brethren . . . We must be willing to abridge ourselves of our superfluities, for the supply of others necessities. We must uphold a familiar commerce together in all meekness, gentleness, patience and liberality. We must delight in each; make others conditions our own; rejoice together, mourn together, labor and suffer together, always having before our eyes our commission and community in the work, as members of the same body. So we will keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace.
Not a bad summary of Christian discipleship, made urgent for Winthrop by the prospect of leading 700 souls on a hard, two-month voyage across the North Atlantic to an equally hard New World. What happened when they got there is a matter of historical record. And different agendas interpret the record differently.
The Puritan habits of hard work, industry and faith branded themselves on the American personality. While Puritan influence later diluted in waves of immigrants from other Protestant traditions, it clearly helped shape the political beliefs of John Adams and many of the other American Founders. Adams and his colleagues were men who, as Daniel Boorstin once suggested, had minds that were a miscellany and a museum; men who could blend the old and the new, an earnest Christian faith and Enlightenment ideas, without destroying either.
But beginning in the nineteenth century, riding a crest of scientific and industrial change, a different view of the Puritans began to emerge. In the language of their critics, the Puritans were seen as intolerant, sexually repressed, narrow-minded witch-hunters who masked material greed with a veneer of Calvinist virtue. Cast as religious fanatics, the Puritans stood accused of planting the seed of nationalist messianism by portraying America as a New Jerusalem, a city upon a hill (from Winthrops homily), with a globally redemptive mission. H.L. Menckenequally skilled as a writer, humorist and anti-religious bigotfamously described the Puritan as a man with the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
In recent years, scholars like Christian Smith have shown how the intellectual weakness and fierce internal divisions of Americas Protestant establishment allowed the secularization of modern public life as a kind of political revolution. Carried out mainly between 1870 and 1930, this rebel insurgency consisted of waves of networks of activists who were largely skeptical, freethinking, agnostic, atheist or theologically liberal; who were well educated and socially located mainly in the knowledge-production occupations, and who generally espoused materialism, naturalism, positivism and the privatization or extinction of religion.
This insurgency could be ignored, or at least contained, for a long time. Why? Because Americas social consensus supported the countrys unofficial Christian assumptions, traditions and religion-friendly habits of thought and behavior. But laweven a constitutional guaranteeis only as strong as the popular belief that sustains it. That traditional consensus is now much weakened. Seventy years of soft atheism trickling down in a steady catechesis from our universities, social-science helping professions, and entertainment and news media, have eroded it.
Obviously many faith-friendly exceptions exist in each of these professional fields. And other culprits, not listed above, may also be responsible for our predicament. The late Christopher Lasch argued that modern consumer capitalism breeds and needs a culture of narcissismi.e., a citizenry of weak, self-absorbed, needy personalitiesin order to sustain itself. Christian Smith put it somewhat differently when he wrote that, in modern capitalism, labor is mobile as needed, consumers purchase what is promoted, workers perform as demanded, managers execute as expectedand profits flow. And what the Torah, or the Pope, or Jesus may say in opposition is not relevant, because those are private matters [emphasis in original].
My point here is neither to defend nor criticize our economic system. Others are much better equipped to do that than I am. My point is that I shop, therefore I am is not a good premise for life in a democratic society like the United States. Our country depends for its survival on an engaged, literate electorate gathered around commonly held ideals. But the practical, pastoral reality facing the Gospel in America today is a human landscape shaped by advertising, an industry Pascal Bruckner described so well as a smiling form of sorcery:
The buyers fantastic freedom of choice supposedly encourages each of us to take ourselves in hand, to be responsible, to diversify our conduct and our tastes; and most important, supposedly protects us forever from fanaticism and from being taken in. In other words, four centuries of emancipation from dogmas, gods and tyrants has led to nothing more nor less than to the marvelous possibility of choosing between several brands of dish detergent, TV channels or styles of jeans. Pushing our cart down the aisle in a supermarket or frantically wielding our remote control, these are supposed to be ways of consciously working for harmony and democracy. One could hardly come up with a more masterful misinterpretation: for we consume in order to stop being individuals and citizens; rather, to escape for a moment from the heavy burden of having to make fundamental choices.
Now, where do Catholics fit into this story?
The same Puritan worldview that informed John Winthrops homily so movingly, also reviled Popery, Catholic ritual and lingering Romish influences in Englands established Anglican Church. The Catholic Church was widely seen as Revelations Whore of Babylon. Time passed, and the American religious landscape became more diverse. But the nations many different Protestant sects shared a common, foreign ogre in their perceptions of the Holy Seeperceptions made worse by Romes distrust of democracy and religious liberty. As a result, Catholics in America faced harsh Protestant discrimination throughout the 18th and 19th centuries. This included occasional riots and even physical attacks on convents, churches and seminaries. Such is the history that made John F. Kennedys success seem so liberating.
The irony is that mainline American Protestantism had used up much of its moral and intellectual power by 1960. Secularizers had already crushed it in the war for the cultural high ground. In effect, after so many decades of struggle, Catholics arrived on Americas center stage just as management of the theater had changed hands -- with the new owners even less friendly, but far shrewder and much more ambitious in their social and political goals, than the old ones. Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox, despite their many differences, share far more than divides them, beginning with Jesus Christ himself. They also share with Jews a belief in the God of Israel and a reverence for Gods Word in the Old Testament. But the gulf between belief and unbelief, or belief and disinterest, is vastly wider.
In the years since Kennedys election, Vatican II and the cultural upheavals of the 1960s, two generations of citizens have grown to maturity. The world is a different place. America is a different placeand in some ways, a far more troubling one. We cant change history, though we need to remember and understand it. But we can only blame outside factors for our present realities up to a point. As Catholics, like so many other American Christians, we have too often made our country what it is through our appetite for success, our self-delusion, our eagerness to fit in, our vanity, our compromises, our self-absorption and our tepid faith.
If government now pressures religious entities out of the public square, or promotes same-sex marriage, or acts in ways that undermine the integrity of the family, or compromises the sanctity of human life, or overrides the will of voters, or discourages certain forms of religious teaching as hate speech, or interferes with individual and communal rights of consciencewell, why not? In the name of tolerance and pluralism, we have forgotten why and how we began as nation; and we have undermined our ability to ground our arguments in anything higher than our own sectarian opinions.
The next America has been in its chrysalis a long time. Whether people will be happy when it fully emerges remains to be seen. But the future is not predestined. We create it with our choices. And the most important choice we can make is both terribly simple and terribly hard: to actually live what the Church teaches, to win the hearts of others by our witness, and to renew the soul of our country with the courage of our own Christian faith and integrity. There is no more revolutionary act.
Charles J. Chaput is the archbishop of Denver.
Remains interesting you would state that.. Humm-mmmm.
Or, from Answers.com:
The apostle Paul wrote the Christian religion’s earliest texts while crisscrossing the Mediterranean and preaching about the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth. Paul’s letters to other believers — declaring that Jesus had risen from the dead and was the Christ, the anointed one, foretold by Jewish prophets — are now a vital part of the New Testament of the Bible, and his words have strongly influenced Christian thinking and worship. Paul himself did not start out as a Christian believer. According to the biblical book The Acts of the Apostles, he was originally known as Saul and was an authorized persecutor of the followers of Jesus. He suddenly converted, Acts says, after being temporarily blinded by a flash of light and hearing the voice of the risen Jesus while on the road to Damascus. Taking his new name of Paul, he became a traveling Christian leader, explaining the movement to the Greeks, starting new churches, and settling conflicts in existing ones. He was jailed or run out of town many times for angering local religious and civic leaders. Scholars say Paul was the actual writer, in Greek, of seven biblical epistles: Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians and Philemon.
Paul is considered a saint in Roman Catholic, Orthodox and some other Christian traditions... His hometown, Tarsus, is in modern-day Turkey, in a region then known as Cilicia... Unlike other famous Christian disciples, Paul never met Jesus before his death. Like them, however, he took the title “apostle” (Greek: apostolos), meaning “one sent forth”... Most scholars question Paul’s authorship of six more biblical letters attributed to him: Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy and Titus. They differ from his other epistles in style, viewpoint and vocabulary. Their unknown authors may have identified with Paul’s school of thought or hoped to invoke his authority... Among Paul’s most famous passages is the discourse on love in 1 Corinthians 13. It begins, “If I speak in the tongues of mortals and of angels, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal,” and ends, “Now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.”
I wouldn't have bothered, but Dr. Eckleburg attributed my statement that Paul was likely looney to "Roman Catholics" and I had to correct her. Then, everyone else jumped in and decided to resurrect that old discussion. I don't mind. But my view is not "the" Catholic View. It's MY OPINION.
Even so...your comment remains interesting. Do you have an opinion on the others who penned scripture? A favorite perhaps?
So tell me, what exactly is the point in this posting, this which you say is from that august and expert source, wikipedia???
All of the Psalms.
The stuff that I labeled from Answers.com is from several sources, including Encylopedia Brittannica, and Columbia Encyclopedia.
You can look it up yourself, if you don’t like my sources.
Well, you impeached my source, the Jewish Encyclopedia. So, I got some others. None of the scholars think Paul wrote all the Epistles attributed to him.
What makes you say that?
I've written elsewhere that if all I had to go on were the so-called Pauline Epistles, I wouldn't care for anything about Christianity. I read the Bible from cover to cover, several editions several times, and it was the four gospels that brought me to Christ.
By the way, as far as I recall, the only two disciples of the twelve that St. Paul mentions are Sts. Peter and John. Maybe the others didn’t like him. Maybe with good reason. After all, they were Jews, they knew Jesus Christ personally, and St. Paul did not. Maybe they thought he was a mental case too.
All I've ever found are Peter and John. Where did you find the others?
Do you know on what basis they make this argument? Can you point to anything that would support that contention or are you just saying, “So and so says”?
For example this from the “Answers” source:
” Most scholars question Pauls authorship of six more biblical letters attributed to him: Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy and Titus. They differ from his other epistles in style, viewpoint and vocabulary. Their unknown authors may have identified with Pauls school of thought or hoped to invoke his authority...”
Who are these “most scholars”? How do those six letters of Paul differ from the others, what style, viewpoint, vocabulary?
I can't believe you have any idea and I can't see any reason to think you've actually made any investigation at all to find out since you reply to any question is a web site.
For example the letter to the Colossians Paul both opens and closes naming himself as the author though he may have had a secretary do the actual penning. But from wikipedia,
“The authenticity of Colossians has been questioned[46] on the grounds that it contains an otherwise unparalleled description (among his writings) of Jesus as the image of the invisible God, a Christology found elsewhere only in Johns gospel.”
Then why not question John's writing too? That Paul agrees with John proves he didn't write Colossians? Please! This is scholarship?
Further from that wikipedia citation on the book of Ephesians:
“Ephesians is a very similar letter to Colossians, but is almost entirely lacking in personal reminiscences. Its style is unique. It lacks the emphasis on the cross to be found in other Pauline writings, reference to the Second Coming is missing, and Christian marriage is exalted in a way which contrasts with the reference in 1 Cor. 7:8-9.”
Ephesus was was an extremely wealthy city with the temple of the goddess Artemis, it was also a very immoral city and Paul found it necessary to make clear God's righteous moral laws as in chapter 5.
Part of Christian morality Paul pointed out was proper love and treatment of marriage mates. On the other hand what Paul wrote in 1 Cor. 7:8,9, was his own opinion on the desirability of widows remarrying
and he said it was his opinion not a command from God.. There is no contrast or conflict to had there.
So the great mind at wikipedia either doesn't read or doesn't even the most simple Scriptures.
So too your source, the rabbi, who impeached himself but had you looked beyond his saying what seemed
to support your view you would have known his views of the Last Supper and general bias.
Repeating opinions is easy, and not the same as having convictions, that's what makes me say that.
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For a long time, all I had was my personal preference for ABP (anyone but Paul). When I first made my views known here, it became a 1000 post dogpile.
Since then, I've looked at a number of writers on Paul, only posted major websites here because frankly, the discussion bores me, and you are not a congressional committee which can compel my participation.
What difference does it make to ANYONE what I think or why? Frankly, it's nobody's business.
But claiming, as Dr. E. did, that Catholics in general feel the way I do is just ridiculous. For that reason I'm participating in a limited way. You will not find any Catholics agreeing with me, but they WILL allow a personal opinion without dogpiling.
Yes, they are a comfort and encouragement for most of us....but how about the New Testament? One of my favorites is Revelations, for it reveals Christ so wonderfully as our coming King. Awesome depictions of Him.
“What difference does it make to ANYONE what I think or why? Frankly, it's nobody’s business.”
But that is what posting on an open thread does, it invites comments from anyone who wishes to reply, it's everyone business then.
The other side of posting is that no one can compel you to respond to anything you wish not to and you can simply leave the thread.
As for what others post... I only accept responsibility for my own words.
And I would think that the young virgin that Christ called and chose as His Mother, who gave of herself to the death in obedience to Christ's request to bear the good news within, next to her heart, would merit better than be called a nobody, nothing but a vessel, a plain woman like any other who was fit only to cast aside...well, you get the idea. Some folks probably think Catholics worship her.
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