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Grace and Works...Romans 4
http://billrandles.wordpress.com ^ | 09-01-10 | Bill Randles

Posted on 09/01/2010 3:02:30 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles

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1 posted on 09/01/2010 3:02:40 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: F15Eagle

Amen F-15! Praise God for his indescribable mercy!


3 posted on 09/01/2010 3:09:55 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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Easy way to make a living, tell people what they want to hear, "you are saved". Nice slogans, that's about it, BUT not the truth.
4 posted on 09/01/2010 4:28:03 PM PDT by verdugo
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You don’t know what you are talking about-


5 posted on 09/01/2010 4:31:38 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles

Thanks for posting this.

I was thinking about this last night.


6 posted on 09/01/2010 4:31:56 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. (False) Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Finalapproach29er

I love doing it- Sola Deo Gloria!


7 posted on 09/01/2010 4:33:34 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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“Easy way to make a living, tell people what they want to hear, “you are saved”. Nice slogans, that’s about it, BUT not the truth.”

Alright, I’ll bite. What is the truth that you speak of?


8 posted on 09/01/2010 8:17:38 PM PDT by longhorn too
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re:You don’t know what you are talking about

Just what I expected as a response, no depth, just boilerplate and slogans.

What is your religion called? It must have a name?

9 posted on 09/02/2010 9:43:11 AM PDT by verdugo
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I am an evangelical christian, why do you come across so hostile? And what was there to respond to? an insult about how I make a living? I didn’t give you a “slogan”- you really don’t know anything about me- ie you don’t know what you are talking about- i am happy to answer any questions and dialogue as much as you want but tone down the petulance !


10 posted on 09/02/2010 10:06:41 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles

“evangelical christian” is not a religion, it’s painting with a broad brush, says nothing about what one believes.


11 posted on 09/02/2010 10:32:42 AM PDT by verdugo
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I worship God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ, through the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God, come to us in the flesh- who gave His life on the cross as a sacrifice for our sins and was raised from the dead on the third day. He ascended to heaven and sits at the right hand of God, but He shall come again- to rescue Israel and to Judge the world in Righteousness. Whosoever will call upon the name of the Lord jesus shall be saved from their sins, born again, justified , partakers of the New Creation.


12 posted on 09/02/2010 11:36:44 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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So, does every evangelical christian believes as you do, or they are not ev’s, but heretics?


13 posted on 09/02/2010 12:00:24 PM PDT by verdugo
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To: verdugo

specifics please?


14 posted on 09/02/2010 12:03:39 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles; Daniel

This is going to be a ride Pastor Bill.....one I have seen many times on the religious threads. It is endless but always interesting. May the truth prevail and Christ be uplifted throughout the debate.

“Grace”....enlarge the definition if you would please...for it often seems this is where the differences get rooted from my observation.


15 posted on 09/02/2010 12:20:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: pastorbillrandles

I asked you what you believe. You answered. I then asked you if an EC has to believe what you believe or else they are heretics? You wrote “the specifics”.


16 posted on 09/02/2010 12:23:29 PM PDT by verdugo
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I need to know what specifically you want to discuss about my doctrine- there is a spectrum of evangelical belief but I would only consider on an evangelical christian, who believes that Jesus is God come in the flesh, and that the only way to be saved is through faith in Him. Obviously there will be a variation in things less crucial.


17 posted on 09/02/2010 12:40:52 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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re: I need to know what specifically you want to discuss about my doctrine.

If it's just yours, then I don't need to know more. What doctrines do EV's have to believe?

18 posted on 09/02/2010 2:46:40 PM PDT by verdugo
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igh...”My doctrine”- is not “My doctrine-” (Why do I have to even qualify that with you?) “ My doctrine, is what I say when I mean the doctrine that I subscribe to. If as you say, “I don’t even need to know more” then good, because I don’ think we can communicate on the level that you seem to want to reduce this to. If you want to really talk, just take the chip off of your shoulder and come right out and ask me what particular point you want to discuss with me. Evangelicals have to believe what anyone would have to believe to be saved, that Jesus is the Son of God, and yet God in the flesh. He died for our sins according to the scripture, was raised from the dead according to the scripture and He shall come again to judge the world in righteousness.


19 posted on 09/02/2010 3:24:50 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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re: Evangelicals have to believe what anyone would have to believe to be saved, that Jesus is the Son of God, and yet God in the flesh. He died for our sins ..., was raised from the dead ..and He shall come again to judge the world in righteousness.

So, anyone that does not believe the above before death, will go to hell. (Jews,Moslems,Protetatants that don't believe in Christ's divinity, and everyone else like them)?

20 posted on 09/02/2010 4:57:31 PM PDT by verdugo
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