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To: Judith Anne
I have read so much falsehood on this thread, this is just another example of a person with no authority whatsoever attempting to tell Catholics what they believe. Worthless trash post.

I think, but I'm not positive, that she's conflating a line from the Baltimore Catechism into the entirety of Catholic doctrine on the Redemption. I've seen that "open the gates of Heaven" line used several times around here and I just haven't had the energy to address it.

Hilariously, the Baltimore Catechism is rejected by a lot of trads because it's "overly Protestant" (infected with Americanism apparently) and that very line is used as an example of why it can't be trusted as a reliable guide of Catholic doctrine. I've been using the first three Baltimore Catechisms for going on six years now with my own children and if I stopped at "Jesus opened the gates of Heaven" I'd have been done 5 years ago.

Here it is from an online version:

Q. Did God abandon man after he fell into sin?
A. God did not abandon man after he fell into sin, but promised him a Redeemer, who was to satisfy for man's sin and reopen to him the gates of heaven.
Well if you stop there you deserve what you get I suppose.
9,879 posted on 10/09/2010 8:15:29 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Legatus
The quote was "To Catholics Jesus died to make open the gates of heaven so men could save themselves.."

So many Calvinists and prods keep repeating the falsity that Catholics believe "men can save themselves.."

No Catholic I know has ever said anything except that Christ Jesus, Risen Son of the Living Almighty God, is our only Savior. Where do the prods come up with this stuff? Comic books?

9,880 posted on 10/09/2010 8:22:32 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Legatus
I think, but I'm not positive, that she's conflating a line from the Baltimore Catechism into the entirety of Catholic doctrine on the Redemption. I've seen that "open the gates of Heaven" line used several times around here and I just haven't had the energy to address it.

Actually a catholic said it here

Hilariously, the Baltimore Catechism is rejected by a lot of trads because it's "overly Protestant" (infected with Americanism apparently)

So what it taught was NOT REALLY Catholic doctrine?

So please tell us why Jesus died on the cross ? What was the purpose of the cross??

9,903 posted on 10/10/2010 5:31:11 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Legatus
Here it is from an online version: Q. Did God abandon man after he fell into sin?
A. God did not abandon man after he fell into sin, but promised him a Redeemer, who was to satisfy for man's sin and reopen to him the gates of heaven.

BTW No Protestant I know would call this "protestant doctrine"

Apparently whole generations of Catholics learned official, approved false doctrine in their Catholic schools.. How could that happen if the Holy Spirit leads the church ? maybe he left huh?

9,905 posted on 10/10/2010 5:36:21 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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