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To: wagglebee
Actually, our Lord entrusted mankind to the Church, not the Bible (the Church in turn gave us the Bible). I try as best I can to faithfully do what He instructed us to do.

To Catholics the church is were one gets saved, in scripture and in Protestantism the church is the gathering of the saved..

BTW The scriptures were inspired by God and given by God, and given to the church..

Incorrect, Church teachings are not in conflict with Scripture.

My friend.. there is no priesthood, no apostolic succession, no papacy , no prayer to saints, no immaculate conception, no assumption, no holy water, no purgatory, no 7 sacraments instituted by Christ, etc etc.. The majority of what passes for catholic doctrine is found no where in the scriptures and comes from the imagination or musings of men

The fact that Protesants REJECT Church teaching on portions of Scripture, does not mean that such Scripture does not exist.

We reject what the scripture is silent on as "inspired truth" and we reject scriptures taken out of context and circumstances to prove a doctrine that a clear reading does not support

How do you "know" this? Who do you think it was that determined the canon of the New Testament?

The scriptures give testimony of themselves. They support each other and define each other.. the scriptures were declared scripture when they were written and used as scripture before the church council affirmed them

9,604 posted on 10/08/2010 1:02:04 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
"The majority of what passes for catholic doctrine is found no where in the scriptures and comes from the imagination or musings of men."

"In order that the full and living Gospel might always be preserved in the Church the apostles left bishops as their successors. They gave them their own position of teaching authority." Indeed, "the apostolic preaching, which is expressed in a special way in the inspired books, was to be preserved in a continuous line of succession until the end of time."

This living transmission, accomplished in the Holy Spirit, is called Tradition, since it is distinct from Sacred Scripture, though closely connected to it. Through Tradition, "the Church, in her doctrine, life and worship, perpetuates and transmits to every generation all that she herself is, all that she believes." "The sayings of the holy Fathers are a witness to the life-giving presence of this Tradition, showing how its riches are poured out in the practice and life of the Church, in her belief and her prayer."

The Father's self-communication made through his Word in the Holy Spirit, remains present and active in the Church: "God, who spoke in the past, continues to converse with the Spouse of his beloved Son. And the Holy Spirit, through whom the living voice of the Gospel rings out in the Church - and through her in the world - leads believers to the full truth, and makes the Word of Christ dwell in them in all its richness."

Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal." Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".

"Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit." Tradition transmits in its entirety the Word of God which has been entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit. It transmits it to the successors of the apostles so that, enlightened by the Spirit of truth, they may faithfully preserve, expound and spread it abroad by their preaching.

9,612 posted on 10/08/2010 1:31:29 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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