[maryz]

let me proclaim that I love others and treat them the way I would want to be. I try very, very hard to even love people the way Christ loves them. I do not sneer at unbelievers, I do not curse them or try to belittle them, I do not boast of my perfection because however much good I might have within me, it is all from the grace of God and not a drop is self-fabricated.

IMO, your claim is just -- as far as I've seen, your posts are always models of civility and thoughtfulness, with a substantive point to make. If you've taken offense at any of my comments directed to the more rabid posters, I'm sorry, because they weren't meant to include you. I avoided using names partly to avoid "making it personal" and (maybe mostly) because I don't necessarily remember who said what in an 8,000 post thread (and all the other preceding threads, which are near duplicates).

These threads would be about 20% of their length if they were restricted to serious debate, IMO.

BTW, I don't know what OSAS is.

[Jaded]

Once Saved Always Saved. The people who think they can say and do what ever they want and are “elect”. You know the type, they are on these threads.