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To: RnMomof7
John was not seeking personal revelation

Padre Pio and many others did not seek personal revelation either,yet God used him to heal others and Christ was revealed to many

God's mysteries do not end.

8,301 posted on 10/02/2010 6:27:29 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
Padre Pio and many others did not seek personal revelation either,yet God used him to heal others and Christ was revealed to many God's mysteries do not end.

Johns revelation was to close the inspired word of God, it was consistent and supported known revelations.

There is no revelation from God that men are to have the wounds of Christ or to suffer like Christ did on the cross ... as a personal sacrifice.. Christ already paid that debt.. a debt n o man can pay

To say pio did not "seek " it is silly for he certainly wanted the publicity from it..

He was a fake , and Rome knows it, but they are into making whats left of their church happy and "canonizing"the right nationalities, the right ages etc..

"Pio then claimed that Christ popped down for a visit and inflicted the “wounds” on his body on October 22, 1918. This time the wounds were permanent. His followers say he preferred to “suffer in secret” though letters telling people about his wounds survive and the priest allowed pictures of himself to be taken where he appears to be showing off the wounds int he most obvious way possible. He even announced, at one point, “I do want to suffer, even to die of suffering, but all in secret.” Somehow announcing it makes it less than secret, quite the contrary it publicizes the suffering and creates the attention that is being sought.

In 1923 the priest was forbidden to teach the boys at the monastery school because the Vatican considered him a “a noxious Socrates, capable of perverting the fragile lives and souls of boys.” And when he admitted to taking money during confession he was forbidden to hear confession.
http://www.miraclesceptic.com/padrepio.html

I just want to point out there is a difference between Mystics that have some supernatural force (Satan or demons) and fakers.. Pio was a faker

8,333 posted on 10/03/2010 10:47:50 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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