Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Legatus; boatbums; kosta50; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
All of human history is only properly understood through the lens of Christ, not in some abstract manner, but directly. Not only does St. Paul not make any sense without oblique reference to Christ but he doesn't make sense without direct reference to what Jesus Christ said and did. In that sense, St. Paul doesn't explain Christ, Christ explains St. Paul.

Wow Catholics really hate Paul, the man God assigned to be the primary teacher to the NT church .

Perhaps it is because the catholic church is still an Old Testament church that they can not understand the New Covenant because like the jews they are blinded to it

I find it of special interest because it was the church fathers they quote so often that declared the works of Paul inspired canon, The infallible word of God..

So did the church error? How can that be??? LOL

Christ showed the prophetic nature of the OT, where every canonical book is Christocentric. He lived the life prophesied in the OT, He fulfilled all the types, He did what no man could do, He kept the OT law perfectly ..He opened the OT to the Jews.

The Epistle writers open the work of Christ on earth and revealed how He fulfilled the promises of the OT to jew and Gentile and what that meant to the sinner in need of a Savior.. They explained the person of Christ and the purpose of the cross in the atonement .

To demean any writer as "nuts" or somehow in error is to call in to question the entire word of God

7,780 posted on 09/30/2010 9:15:08 AM PDT by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7750 | View Replies ]


To: RnMomof7
HOLD EVERYTHING!

All of human history is only properly understood through the lens of Christ, not in some abstract manner, but directly. Not only does St. Paul not make any sense without oblique reference to Christ but he doesn't make sense without direct reference to what Jesus Christ said and did. In that sense, St. Paul doesn't explain Christ, Christ explains St. Paul.

And from that you got:
Wow Catholics really hate Paul, the man God assigned to be the primary teacher to the NT church.

Are you kidding me?! You believe St. Paul stands on his own and that Christ isn't the necessary lens through which everything must be understood? You can make sense of St. Paul without Christ?

7,785 posted on 09/30/2010 9:35:51 AM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7780 | View Replies ]

To: RnMomof7; Legatus; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; Alex Murphy; ...
LEGATUS: St. Paul doesn't explain Christ, Christ explains St. Paul.

Gamecock, we've got another one for you.

The very reason for Paul's life was to "explain Christ" to Jews, Gentiles, you, me and the world.

"We preach Christ crucified...Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God." -- 1 Corinthians 1:23-24

Have RCs even read the Bible? Or do they just take the word of their church what the Bible says? What do they think the meaning of "preaching" is? "Preaching" is "explaining Christ."

Rome doesn't much care for preaching. Rome prefers its anti-Scriptural rites and superstitions.

But that is not how God tells us men are saved. Men are saved by hearing the Gospel with new ears and understanding it for the first time so they are brought to faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

And what is the explanation of the Gospel?

As Paul explained to all who could hear...

"And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." -- Phil. 2:11

So here Paul explains to us that Jesus Christ is God.

" For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus." -- Romans 3:23-26

Here Paul explains that Christ died to pay for our sins, wherein His righteousness would cover those who believe in His name as Lord and Savior.

Paul lived and died to "explain Christ." That is the same job you and I are supposed to be doing on this forum.

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." -- Mark 16:15-16

(Note that Christ says all men are to believe and be baptized in His name, but only disbelief will damn a person.)

7,793 posted on 09/30/2010 9:52:44 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7780 | View Replies ]

To: RnMomof7; Legatus; 1000 silverlings; metmom
Christ showed the prophetic nature of the OT, where every canonical book is Christocentric. He lived the life prophesied in the OT, He fulfilled all the types, He did what no man could do, He kept the OT law perfectly ..He opened the OT to the Jews.

The Epistle writers open the work of Christ on earth and revealed how He fulfilled the promises of the OT to jew and Gentile and what that meant to the sinner in need of a Savior.. They explained the person of Christ and the purpose of the cross in the atonement .

To demean any writer as "nuts" or somehow in error is to call in to question the entire word of God

AMEN!

Our advice to Roman Catholics is go read the Bible. Study for themselves to see if this be true.

7,821 posted on 09/30/2010 10:35:00 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7780 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson