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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg
Can you explain what Protestants mean by "obedient". Is it a mindless, unquestioning Abrahamic conformance to commands or does it mean to choose to hear and submit freely to what has been heard (from the Latin ob-audire meaning "hear or listen to")?

Adam and Eve were created with a free will, the ability to sin or not sin, that was lost in the garden.
Unregenerate man can only choose what is sin in Gods eyes.. His will is bound by the sin of Adam, he will always choose what he prefers, and he will never choose to see himself as a sinner, repent and make Jesus Lord. He loves his life as it is and his sin
When the grace of God regenerates a man he is "born again" returning his will to the state of the Adam and Eve, allowing him to choose to sin or not sin ... he is able to be obedient to God, something the unregenerate man is not.

7,119 posted on 09/28/2010 7:37:05 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
"Adam and Eve were created with a free will, the ability to sin or not sin, that was lost in the garden."

You have it exactly backwards. Adam and Eve were created without the ability to sin because they did not know the difference between right and wrong until they partook of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Actual sin is any willful thought, desire, word, action or omission forbidden by the law of God.

7,132 posted on 09/28/2010 9:12:09 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RnMomof7
Adam and Eve were created with a free will, the ability to sin or not sin, that was lost in the garden.

Unregenerate man can only choose what is sin in Gods eyes.. His will is bound by the sin of Adam, he will always choose what he prefers, and he will never choose to see himself as a sinner, repent and make Jesus Lord. He loves his life as it is and his sin.

When the grace of God regenerates a man he is "born again" returning his will to the state of the Adam and Eve, allowing him to choose to sin or not sin ... he is able to be obedient to God, something the unregenerate man is not.

AMEN! All glory to God alone.

7,167 posted on 09/28/2010 12:05:29 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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