To: kosta50; maryz; Kolokotronis; stfassisi
Therefore, the Church teaches that the essential elements of salvation are Grace first, and free will second. God offers, man accepts; God leads, man follows—freely. Which pretty much sums up the traditional Lutheran teaching. We can not come to God by our own reason or strength, but we reject God and choose not to follow him.
You can't save yourself, but you can damn yourself.
6,788 posted on
09/23/2010 4:24:46 AM PDT by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: redgolum; maryz; Kolokotronis; stfassisi
- Which pretty much sums up the traditional Lutheran teaching. We can not come to God by our own reason or strength, but we reject God and choose not to follow him
How does this square with the Lutheran doctirnes of total depravity which denies the free will, and the unconditional election of the elect?
6,800 posted on
09/23/2010 9:14:03 AM PDT by
kosta50
(God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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