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To: RnMomof7

Dominus Iesus still upholds vatican 1. We don;t deny the Holy Spirit blows where He wills. Thus a person saved is still saved through the Church in a mysterious relationship

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/r
The Church is the “universal sacrament of salvation”,79 since, united always in a mysterious way to the Saviour Jesus Christ, her Head, and subordinated to him, she has, in God’s plan, an indispensable relationship with the salvation of every human being.80 For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, “salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church, but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit”;81 it has a relationship with the Church, which “according to the plan of the Father, has her origin in the mission of the Son and the Holy Spirit”.82


6,602 posted on 09/21/2010 5:33:39 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
Dominus Iesus still upholds vatican 1. We don;t deny the Holy Spirit blows where He wills. Thus a person saved is still saved through the Church in a mysterious relationship

This is one of the major differences between Protestants and Catholics..

Catholics believe they are saved through the church, protestants believe the church is already the Bride of Christ.. it is a gathering of the saved ..

6,612 posted on 09/21/2010 6:10:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (........Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Mat 22:29 )
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To: stfassisi; RnMomof7
Dominus Iesus still upholds vatican 1. We don;t deny the Holy Spirit blows where He wills. Thus a person saved is still saved through the Church in a mysterious relationship

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/r The Church is the “universal sacrament of salvation”,79 since, united always in a mysterious way to the Saviour Jesus Christ, her Head, and subordinated to him, she has, in God’s plan, an indispensable relationship with the salvation of every human being.80 For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, “salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church, but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit”;81 it has a relationship with the Church, which “according to the plan of the Father, has her origin in the mission of the Son and the Holy Spirit”.82

Remember this: THERE IS NO TEACHING OF THE RCC WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED.

6,683 posted on 09/22/2010 8:46:28 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: stfassisi; RnMomof7
Dominus Iesus still upholds vatican 1. We don;t deny the Holy Spirit blows where He wills. Thus a person saved is still saved through the Church in a mysterious relationship

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/r The Church is the “universal sacrament of salvation”,79 since, united always in a mysterious way to the Saviour Jesus Christ, her Head, and subordinated to him, she has, in God’s plan, an indispensable relationship with the salvation of every human being.80 For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, “salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church, but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit”;81 it has a relationship with the Church, which “according to the plan of the Father, has her origin in the mission of the Son and the Holy Spirit”.82

Remember this: THERE IS NO TEACHING OF THE RCC WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED.

6,686 posted on 09/22/2010 8:47:53 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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