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To: RnMomof7
But if God is not angry with men, why did Christ have to SUFFER ? Why was an atonement necessary? Why did God have to inflict so much pain on Christ if He was not angry with men?

There you go, trying to understand the heart and mind of God with limited human abilities. Remember, God LOVES the world, and it was the WORLD that inflicted pain on Christ, not God. Christ (God Incarnate) accepted that for our sake, to make us His sisters, brothers, children of God. He ransomed us from sin and death, His death paid our price.

Every sinner is guilty of the death of Christ.

6,596 posted on 09/21/2010 5:04:48 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
There you go, trying to understand the heart and mind of God with limited human abilities. Remember, God LOVES the world, and it was the WORLD that inflicted pain on Christ, not God.

The crucification was the plan of God

Mat 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

Luk 22:22 And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!

Jhn 19:10 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee? 11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power [at all] against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

Act 2:23 — Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Act 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

Act 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

Neither Jesus or the Father were surprised by the crucification.. it was ordained before the foundation of the earth

Christ (God Incarnate) accepted that for our sake, to make us His sisters, brothers, children of God. He ransomed us from sin and death, His death paid our price.

How did He do that ? Did He pay the entire price or only part of it?

Every sinner is guilty of the death of Christ.

That is true..

6,607 posted on 09/21/2010 5:49:26 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (........Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Mat 22:29 )
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