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To: Legatus
The crowds did not turn out for Ratzinger as some had hoped.

SMALLER CROWDS ANTICIPATED IN UK FOR PAPAL VISIT

Smaller crowds than initially expected will attend events scheduled during Pope Benedict XVI's visit to Britain, the head of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales said Tuesday.

Organizers now anticipate around 55,000 worshippers to gather for the beatification of Cardinal Newman Sunday in Birmingham, central England, compared to the 80,000 people originally expected.

Fewer pilgrims are also expected at the open-air mass at Glasgow's Bellahouston Park than those who showed up at the venue for a mass given by Pope John Paul II there in 1982. This was not because of lack of interest, however, organizers said.

"I think one of the problems is that quite a lot of the trees in the park have grown since then, which is a tendency which trees have, which has altered the sight lines," said Lord Chris Patten, who is heading the government's part of the visit.

"Quite properly, welcoming as the citizens of Glasgow are, they don't want to cut down all their trees," he said.

John Paul II was the first pope ever to set foot on English soil, and his visit came at the height of his popularity at the time. Benedict's visit, starting Thursday, has been overshadowed by the church's clerical sex abuse scandal.

Ah, yes, "those pesky trees." Pity all those evergreens and poplars keep growing "which is a tenancy which trees have," or so we're told.

But we all know how Rome operates. If there were three people there, the press release would say 300 showed up.

Just like when Ratzinger supposedly "walked out" on Sheik Tamiri in Jerusalem...until the film of the event revealed Ratzinger sitting politely through Tarmiri's entire 6-minute diatribe against the Jews, followed by Tamiri shaking hands with a smiling, convivial Ratzinger not once, but TWICE.

Rome lies.

6,339 posted on 09/20/2010 12:54:29 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Legatus; Judith Anne; Cronos; MarkBsnr
SMALLER CROWDS ANTICIPATED IN UK FOR PAPAL VISIT
Organizers now anticipate around 55,000 worshippers to gather for the beatification of Cardinal Newman Sunday

Since it seems evident that you're interested in the numbers, what's the largest gathering of Orthodox Presbyterians in the last 70-years for a leader of that group? How many showed up? I'd be interested to see how it compares since it looks like stones are being thrown.

6,349 posted on 09/20/2010 3:28:54 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Legatus; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; ...
The crowds did not turn out for Ratzinger as some had hoped.

SMALLER CROWDS ANTICIPATED IN UK FOR PAPAL VISIT

Smaller crowds than initially expected will attend events scheduled during Pope Benedict XVI's visit to Britain, the head of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales said Tuesday.

Organizers now anticipate around 55,000 worshippers to gather for the beatification of Cardinal Newman Sunday in Birmingham, central England, compared to the 80,000 people originally expected.

Fewer pilgrims are also expected at the open-air mass at Glasgow's Bellahouston Park than those who showed up at the venue for a mass given by Pope John Paul II there in 1982. This was not because of lack of interest, however, organizers said.

"I think one of the problems is that quite a lot of the trees in the park have grown since then, which is a tendency which trees have, which has altered the sight lines," said Lord Chris Patten, who is heading the government's part of the visit.

"Quite properly, welcoming as the citizens of Glasgow are, they don't want to cut down all their trees," he said.

John Paul II was the first pope ever to set foot on English soil, and his visit came at the height of his popularity at the time. Benedict's visit, starting Thursday, has been overshadowed by the church's clerical sex abuse scandal.

Ah, yes, "those pesky trees." Pity all those evergreens and poplars keep growing "which is a tenancy which trees have," or so we're told.

But we all know how Rome operates. If there were three people there, the press release would say 300 showed up.

Wow! Even for you this is priceless!

Your "proof" of small crowds is an article published by the AP two days BEFORE the Pope even came to the UK. This reminds me of the way the left cherry picks reports of the Tea Party.

Maybe you help with an question that nobody seems quite able to answer: why is it that when groups like the AP and NYT are reporting about conservatives, conservatives know to ignore it; when they are lavishing praise on Obama, conservatives know to ignore it; but, when they are criticizing Catholics, anti-Catholics who claim to be conservative believe them without any hesitation?

The protests against the Pope were with regards to his position on homosexuality, abortion and other social matters. The only reasonable thing that I can conclude is that the anti-Catholic FReepers who cheer these protesters are doing so because they ALSO support militant homosexualism and abortion.

6,350 posted on 09/20/2010 6:25:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It appears that the reports you mentioned anticipating smaller crowds for the papal visit were exaggerated. Now perhaps is the time for you to accept the Truth who is Jesus in your life and allow the scales of spiritual blindness to fall from your eyes as they did for Paul.

Ian Paisley was in town to greet the Pope so what prevented you from embracing the Truth excising the bigoted ways of a sinful former existence.

Accept Jesus not the lies of Satan.

6,365 posted on 09/20/2010 8:02:03 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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