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To: Iscool
No, I am referencing those lost souls who bask in the sinful pride of private interpretation instead of relying on the indwelling of the Holy Spirit to guide their souls to eternal salvation.

Worship Jesus not self.

6,147 posted on 09/19/2010 10:06:34 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: bronx2
No, I am referencing those lost souls who bask in the sinful pride of private interpretation instead of relying on the indwelling of the Holy Spirit to guide their souls to eternal salvation.

But yet those in your religion are the Kings of private interpretation...Just look at your catechism...Look at your encyclicals...Look at your so-called councils...

6,185 posted on 09/19/2010 12:40:05 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: bronx2; Iscool; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; metmom; OLD REGGIE; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; ...
Too bad Roman Catholics don't read the whole of Scripture to learn what is meant by "private interpretation."

Let's hear Calvin's take on the verse...

20. Knowing this first - Here Peter begins to shew how our minds are to be prepared, if we really wish to make progress in scriptural knowledge. There may at the same time be two interpretations given, if you read ἐπηλύσεως as some do, which means occurrence, impulse; or, as I have rendered it, interpretation, ἐπιλύσεως. But almost all give this meaning, that we ought not to rush on headlong and rashly when we read Scripture, confiding in our own understanding. They think that a confirmation of this follows, because the Spirit, who spoke by the prophets, is the only true interpreter of himself.

This explanation contains a true, godly, and useful doctrine, that then only are the prophecies read profitably, when we renounce the mind and feelings of the flesh, and submit to the teaching of the Spirit; but that it is an impious profanation of it when we arrogantly rely on our own acumen, deeming that sufficient to enable us to understand it, though the mysteries contain things hidden to our flesh, and sublime treasures of life far surpassing our capacities. And this is what we have said, that the light which shines in it, comes to the humble alone.

But the Papists are doubly foolish, when they conclude from this passage, that no interpretation of a private man ought to be deemed authoritative. For they pervert what Peter says, that they may claim for their own councils the chief right of interpreting Scripture; but in this they act indeed childishly; for Peter calls interpretation private, not that of every individual, in order to prohibit each one to interpret; but he shews that whatever men bring of their own is profane. Were, then, the whole world unanimous, and were the minds of all men united together, still what would proceed from them, would be private or their own; for the word is here set in opposition to divine revelation; so that the faithful, inwardly illuminated by the Holy Spirit, acknowledge nothing but what God says in his word.

However, another sense seems to me more simple, that Peter says that Scripture came not from man, or through the suggestions of man. For thou wilt never come well prepared to read it, except thou bringest reverence, obedience, and docility; but a just reverence then only exists when we are convinced that God speaks to us, and not mortal men. Then Peter especially bids us to believe the prophecies as the indubitable oracles of God, because they have not emanated from men's own private suggestions.


6,202 posted on 09/19/2010 1:27:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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