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To: bkaycee; maryz; HarleyD
AND you would say that these verses are an overstatement.

There should be a question mark after that. No, I don't. As one who managed to spend most of life making the most sick choices possible, I know they are not exaggerations.

The comparision is whether God creates us dead or sick - whether, according to double predestination, some are created dead forever. Or whether, even as sick, dead, perverted man becomes, he is not that way forever - for there is grace and a loving God.

And you were dead in the trespasses and sins

We cannot take every instance of "dead" to prove double predestination. All of this kind of stuff describes just how sick we can be. Often it shows how, sick as we may be, God still loves us, still is there to make us well - whole, as only He can.

even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ— by grace you have been saved.

6,075 posted on 09/18/2010 4:08:48 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; bkaycee; maryz; HarleyD

Dead means separated from God, not incapable of responding to God. And there are many passages speaking of us as blind, or slaves, or ill - all of which must be ignored if man is to be presented as unable to respond to the command of God, with God then judging him for not doing what he is incapable of doing.

It is like beating a dog with diarrhea for pooping on the carpet, when you left him inside an apartment for 12 hours...


6,084 posted on 09/18/2010 4:39:13 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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