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To: Dr. Eckleburg

It wasn’t “out of the blue”. I mentioned my experiences in Protestantism and how I never received any practical guidance that wasn’t the interpretation of an individuals perception of a verse or isolated passage of Sacred Scripture. Then I recalled Dobson’s influence that began with “Preparing for Adolescence” and how it had negatively impacted my life for an extended period of time. As much as I like to think I’ve gotten over it, I still try to keep it out of my mind. I tried to keep the account relatively brief while communicating what I thought were the key points.

I used the example I did to indicate that I wasn’t talking about the minor issues all people endure during that phase of life.

I’m interested in the rationality behind a defense that basically boils down to “if you don’t want to be robbed don’t leave the doors unlocked”. Well... ok... I suppose that says something about the person who left the door unlocked but it also says something about the person who walked out with the TV. I see a lot of that kind of attitude around here. It seems like a willingness to exploit every opening... and we’re back to people treating other people like playthings again.

So we see, the doctrine of total depravity leaves no room for human dignity. I’m not surprised, just disappointed. I still can’t remember who said “Catholics are so much worse than their religion, Protestants so much better than theirs”. Normally I find that to be true, it’s not hard for a Protestant to be better than Protestantism and it’s very hard for a Catholic to live up to Catholicism. What’s really tragic is when Protestants live down to Protestantism and follow the logical progression of what it really is. Life becomes a shrill, strident denial of joy.


6,036 posted on 09/18/2010 2:10:35 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Legatus
Then I recalled Dobson’s influence that began with “Preparing for Adolescence” and how it had negatively impacted my life for an extended period of time. As much as I like to think I’ve gotten over it, I still try to keep it out of my mind.

Sounds dreadful. Apparently it "impacted your lfe" for 14 years of not wanting to be touched and it even now colors your adulthood up to this very day.

What was it specifically that scarred you in Dobson's book, "Preparing for Adolescence?"

6,040 posted on 09/18/2010 2:16:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Legatus
So we see, the doctrine of total depravity leaves no room for human dignity.

Nonsense. Human dignity is the result of Christ's covering -- His dignity His righteousness; His obedience, mercifully imputed to His children.

Roman Catholics think their church and their own good works save them.

Protestants believe God's unearned gift of grace through faith in Jesus Christ saves them.

Who boasts?

6,042 posted on 09/18/2010 2:20:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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