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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Your posts do not indicate that you get it. They seem more determined than ever not to get it.

I cannot argue for a belief I do not hold.

I’ve watched folks labor to give you the correct vocabulary and doctrine, where it is clear, where it is more open to each believer - long posts that show precisely why your presentation of Catholic beliefs are incorrect. To no effect.

And the effort to get to a point of honest, yet passionate, debate on what Catholics believe has over and over again been futile.

The only thing I’m left with is getting your beliefs correct and arguing against them. If I have them wrong, please let me know.

But unless there is the corollary with my beliefs, it’s just, well, useless to try to defend and argue them.


5,797 posted on 09/17/2010 12:08:43 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
And the effort to get to a point of honest, yet passionate, debate on what Catholics believe has over and over again been futile.

It has long been obvious that that point can never be reached because all disagreement with Rome is seen as ignorance of Rome.

We get it. It's not difficult to understand.

We disagree with it.

You think "co-redeemer" and "another mediator" makes sense. Are Scriptural. Are truthful. Are reality.

And they are none of these.

They are errors which contradict the word of God, deny Christ His due and diminish the power and intent of the Holy Spirit.

Again and again and again.

Further you may think you are paraphrasing my beliefs correctly, but I can assure you , you are not. You misstate them over and over.

Do I whine that you are dense and don't understand? No, I try again to state my beliefs, hoping that lurkers at least can read productively.

5,798 posted on 09/17/2010 12:17:43 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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