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To: wagglebee; metmom; Iscool
The Church clearly recognizes that salvation can occur without traditional baptism as evidenced by the Holy Innocents.

That would have been a baptism BY BLOOD.. and covered by Catholic doctrine..

Why do Catholic priests baptize still born children or dead infants?? Because it assures heaven in Catholic doctrine... other wise, those infants might be in hell correct? Those children, born in sin might be subject to the JUSTICE of God correct?

It is kind of funny actually..Limbo was taught to comfort people as to the fate of the infants and unborn that die without baptism... As a Calvinist I believe that God is indeed merciful but I cling to the scripture 'Shall Not The Judge Of All The Earth Do Right?' because not one of us know the mind of God in this

5,553 posted on 09/16/2010 8:33:10 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: RnMomof7
"Why do Catholic priests baptize still born children or dead infants??"

If they do, and I have not heard of a single case, it is not out of necessity, but most likely to comfort a grieving parent. If you are aware of any instances please link them in.

5,563 posted on 09/16/2010 8:49:03 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: RnMomof7; metmom; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; ..
Why do Catholic priests baptize still born children or dead infants??

They DO NOT, baptism is only for the living.

We baptise the living because it WILL bring about the birth of water and Spirit.

It is kind of funny actually..Limbo was taught to comfort people as to the fate of the infants and unborn that die without baptism...

Limbo is taught because quite frankly we don't know for a certainty what happens. But we do know that though we are bound by the Sacraments, God is not and we believe that it is His Will that all who can be saved are.

I do find it ironic that an unborn child is deliberately MURDERED every 24 seconds in the United States and there are more than a few who frequent these threads that are far more concerned with condemning the Catholic Church than they are with joining the Catholic Church in hopes of ending the bloodshed.

As a Calvinist I believe that God is indeed merciful but I cling to the scripture 'Shall Not The Judge Of All The Earth Do Right?' because not one of us know the mind of God in this

There is no substantial difference between this and what Catholics believe.

5,570 posted on 09/16/2010 8:56:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: RnMomof7; metmom
The church clearly teaches that baptism is a necessity for salvation, which is why infants are baptized.. FALSE, and not only false but EASILY ascertainable as false. EASILY!

The appearance of contradiction in the CCC is USUALLY resolved by further inquiry. I simply will not give the paragraph citation, but if any of you all, rather than speculating and charging us with the results of your guesses, would actually consult the INDEX (for crying out loud) of the CCC he would find where the topic is addressed.

This is not done in the dark or in a corner. It's in the index!

Clearly the rewards of making unfounded charges which might be wrong are more attractive to you all than the rewards of knowing the truth and acting in it.

Theological query: If someone claims to love Him who is the Truth and yet neglects care in finding the small-t truth, what sort, if any, of love are we talking about?

5,573 posted on 09/16/2010 9:03:45 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: RnMomof7

Is the Westminster Confession of Faith part of your church’s doctrine?


5,693 posted on 09/16/2010 5:16:37 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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